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post #11 of 19 Old 03-26-2015, 03:55 PM
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From the Merck Vet. Manual:
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Metastatic strangles (“b astard strangles”) is characterized by abscessation in other lymph nodes of the body, particularly the lymph nodes in the abdomen and, less frequently, the thorax. S equi is the most common cause of brain abscess in horses, albeit rare.

When a yard I had my horses on had a strangles outbreak one of the horses there had 'b astard' strangles but as far as I can recall didn't have the typical type symptoms that the others who caught it had as they didn't realize he was infected when he became really ill - some of the older horses had no symptoms at all, some just had snotty nose flu like symptoms for a couple of days and the 4 horses (one was mine) that got the abscess in the throat area were all under 7 years old
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great post,
the same question as OP
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So it sounds as if this is very rare (b a s t a r d strangles being uncommon enough as it is--my vet had only seen one, yes, ONE case in the ten years she's been a vet) but does happen.

I don't think we will ever know where she picked it up, and I am just hoping that she makes it out alive. She is currently on antibiotics, with me aggressively flushing the wound in the morning and evening in order to keep it open and not heal in such a way that the pus gets trapped again. I'll know more in two weeks when my vet does an ultrasound and nasal swab.

For any vet techs--when you have seen cases like this, have you done nasal swabs and found Streptococcus equi in the nasal cavities? Or has the S. equi confined itself to the part of the body with the abscess?
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The horse I mentioned had the abscess internally so it wasn't 'seen' and when it did burst all the toxins flooded straight into the bloodstream as nothing could escape outwards. He didn't survive
With your horse - if it is b astard strangles and not just a case of a wound being infected by nasal discharge from a horse with strangles at least its burst outwards in the same way that the ones in the throat do which means you have a far better chance of treating it and keeping it drained
My mare made a complete recovery and the tiny scar she was left with was barely visible which was amazing considering the size of the opening when it burst
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Thanks Jaydee. Our only problem is that the abscess opened up at the point of the hip (we originally thought she had fallen and perhaps had a bone chip or piece of wood as a locus for infection), and my vet could not probe downward more than about an inch and a half, or just under 4 cm. From the several litres of pus which drained, it's very deep, and it's not able to drain with gravity helping it along--the pus is being pushed out when she makes sudden movements.
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Can't help you out with info about your particular case but on occasion when I've dealt with an infected wound I packed them with drawing salve to drain the infection, including one where it had to pull it up out of a rear leg because the wound was up in his inner thigh but the infection was settling causing his lower leg to swell.

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I see what you mean Sweeney Road - That's tough. I hope you see some improvement soon and she pulls through it OK
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Update!

A PCR test was performed and came back negative. No strangles or b a s t a r d strangles. Original diagnosis of either 'vaccination' abscess or sequestrum still stands.
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Pleased to hear that.
Thank you for updating us
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