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post #1 of 7 Old 08-15-2017, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
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Powerpac questions

I am about to start Jericho on the power pac, recommended to me by my horse mentor. I've owned horses before, but haven't done this type of deworming. Also, I am used to having a roundbale but as of right now, because his current pasture is temporary, I have been giving him flakes twice daily.

I wanted some advise on how to ensure this goes well. I am not sure if he has been dewormed before, and honestly I treat every new thing I do with him as if he has never experienced it before in his life. I am waiting until next week to start it, because next week I'll be able to watch him a bit closer to notice behaviors that may indicate colic or other stomach issues.

So here are my questions:

Should I do it before feeding or after?

What is the best way to introduce the dewormer to him so he doesn't just spit it out?

My previous gelding, Jimi (RIP) took it like a champ, we had no issues with him taking it, but we also didn't do the powerpac, and his history was well known. New horse means new experiences.

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What does the vet recommend?

If you did not take a fecal sample on a new horse to the vet, you need to do that first ------- a horse mentor's opinion does not count unless that person is a vet and has done a fecal count on the horse.
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Agree with walkinthewalk. Especially since you do not know if he was ever dewormed before. Have your vet do a fecal count and see what the appropriate deworming measures are before you give him the Powerpac. He may not even need it, or he may need a different type of deworming medication. If you can't get your vet out do a fecal count, you can buy tests online like at SmartPak and similar stores and then send the samples in and they will e-mail you a report and you can discuss it with your vet to decide what deworming measures to take.

As for introducing the dewormer to him, it's been a while since I had to do that but I seem to recall my gelding being okay with it for the most part. I usually had him haltered and was able to do it by myself without much trouble. I generally had treats available on hand to give him after he swallowed the dewormer to make it a positive experience for him but to be honest he never seem bothered by it and I never made a big deal out of it so I guess he never thought it was a big deal. I just made it seem as normal an experience as possible and made sure to give him something that tasted better than the dewormer afterwards so he didn't associate the bad taste with the experience and hopefully remembered the good taste of the treats he got afterwards (in regard to your question about doing it before/after feeding, I suppose you should do it before feeding). I never had to have a second person help and never had to use any of the special equipment you can buy (like the EZ Worming Halter) and he was a young horse. I suppose if Jericho's history is unknown you may have to take it slower in case he had a bad experience or is sensitive about things going in his mouth or being handled around his head, though.
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Agree with walkinthewalk. Especially since you do not know if he was ever dewormed before. Have your vet do a fecal count and see what the appropriate deworming measures are before you give him the Powerpac. He may not even need it, or he may need a different type of deworming medication. If you can't get your vet out do a fecal count, you can buy tests online like at SmartPak and similar stores and then send the samples in and they will e-mail you a report and you can discuss it with your vet to decide what deworming measures to take.

As for introducing the dewormer to him, it's been a while since I had to do that but I seem to recall my gelding being okay with it for the most part. I usually had him haltered and was able to do it by myself without much trouble. I generally had treats available on hand to give him after he swallowed the dewormer to make it a positive experience for him but to be honest he never seem bothered by it and I never made a big deal out of it so I guess he never thought it was a big deal. I just made it seem as normal an experience as possible and made sure to give him something that tasted better than the dewormer afterwards so he didn't associate the bad taste with the experience and hopefully remembered the good taste of the treats he got afterwards (in regard to your question about doing it before/after feeding, I suppose you should do it before feeding). I never had to have a second person help and never had to use any of the special equipment you can buy (like the EZ Worming Halter) and he was a young horse. I suppose if Jericho's history is unknown you may have to take it slower in case he had a bad experience or is sensitive about things going in his mouth or being handled around his head, though.
Thank you for your response, I'll talk to my vet as well but thanks for at least answering my question :) every horse person I've met in my life has recomended deworming when you get them just to be sure. He most likely hasnt been dewormed in quite some time. Vet seemed to agree with my horse mentor, which was why I went ahead and bought the powerpac. Ill insist upon a fecal.
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Years ago, when I first rescued my Arab, he was adamant he was not going to swallow the de-wormer and actually spit the whole thing out before I could stop him.

For a long time, I had to quickly syringe the paste down his throat, walk him and massage his throat latch area at the same time because he would hold the paste in the back of his mouth. Well, he had to swallow sometime, lightly massaging his throatlatch area helped to speed up that process:)

He finally got to the point where I could de-worm him without even needing the halter. He would make that monkey face Arabs are so good at, and put his ears back but he had stopped spitting the stuff out years ago.

I never de-worm a horse and leave them in their stall. I wait until morning, feed them, de-worm them, then turn them out to pasture. That way if they do get any belly twinges, they can walk it off.

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I would not start with a Powerpac (or generally ever recommend one). If you don't know your horse's deworming history, you should still take a fecal sample to your veterinarian to determine if deworming is necessary. For an adult horse, if deworming is necessary, you should typically use something other than fenbendazole (active ingredient in Powerpac) as that drug has a wide ranging resistance issues with small strongyles which are the main parasite of concern in adult horses.

As for introducing dewormer to your horse, make the attempt as you would with any horse. Halter him, slip the tip of your finger into the edge of his mouth and then follow it with the deworming syringe. If he acts afraid, start by touching and rubbing him with the tube on his shoulder. If he pulls away, keep the tube against him until he stands still, then take it away. Repeat the process until he will stand calmly for the tube being placed against his shoulder, then move up his neck a bit. Repeat this at a couple of spots along his neck and then move to his jaw and finally just inserting the tip into his mouth. At each location, hold the tube against him until he stands still for it before you take it away. Move to a new location closer to his mouth when he is comfortable with being touched with the tube farther away from him mouth. Once you get to the point where you can insert it into his mouth, don't immediately give the medication. First just slide it into his mouth and take it back out, offering a treat afterwards. Do that a few times before you administer the medication. Once you go through this procedure once, repeat it for at least 2-3 more days in a row just to reinforce the lesson. Then you will still need to occasionally stick a tube in his mouth sometimes just to keep him used to it.

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The only time I've used a Powerpac is with confirmed pinworms in my horse (the only one on the property to show visible evidence of them )

I'm lucky that my mare doesn't give me trouble with dewormers, but I've seen the suggestion of practicing on difficult horses by syringing applesauce a few times and following up the dewormer with it. Not sure if it really works.
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