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post #1 of 8 Old 03-06-2015, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Would you buy a horse with sarcoids? Going to view a 5 year old gelding who has had treatment for a sarcoid on his belly.
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For me, it would depend on the sarcoid. Where it is located, how big, if there are others appearing around it, etc... Sarcoids all tend to be a little different, and grow at different rates.

I would go look at the horse, and see what sort of treatment it has had. If you like the horse enough, maybe ask the seller if they would mind if you had your vet look at where it was, and give you his opionion before deciding to purchase the horse.
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Depends on where. I know horses that have had them in some locations with no problems at all. I know one lady that spend an obscene amount of money buying this expensive warmblood who had three of them right in the girth area. I don't know if he had them when she bought him or if they came along after the fact. Either way, they caused a lot of trouble over a number of years trying to get rid of them. All sorts of treatments, and lots of time off work because you couldn't put a girth over them. They bought the horse at the same time as mine (2006 I think) and last summer when I was out there they were still dealing with those things coming back. They said that they finally found some sort of treatment that they thought would get rid of them permanently, but I never heard what came of that.

Had they been in another location they probably wouldn't have ever caused a problem for riding the horse. To my knowledge he never got them anywhere else. I don't know too much about sarcoids other than the ones this particular horse had, so I can't comment too much on how they can be in other areas. But watching the trouble they had with his I would never ever buy a horse that had them in an area that would be affected by tack or something.
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It would depend if they were fibroblastic or occult. I would not get a horse with fibroblastic sarcoids. I dealt with that with my late TB gelding, he had them up and down his ventral line, on his sheath, in his ears and on his dock. We tried all manner of treatments for a full 3 years, and he is actually one of I believe 2 horses on record to die from them. An experimental treatment is thought to have caused them to internalize and upon his necropsy we found sarcoids on his spinal cord. That killed him.

Occult sarcoids are smooth surfaced and not bleeding or raw. I have never had problems with them and would feel fine buying a horse with them.
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Thank you for your comments. The sarcoid is not in an area which affects the horse being tacked up and ridden. I have been told that they have put a ring on the sarcoid and when this drops off they will use a cream of sorts which will eliminate any possible remnants. I have heard that once they have had one they will be prone to others and that Liverpool cream works wonders.
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Take advice from your vet - based on a biopsy.
I did have a mare operated on for sarcoids and it was successful and they never came back but a lot depends on what type they are
If the horse was otherwise exactly what I wanted and the price reflected the risk then I would likely buy it - but you would really have to declare the existing sarcoid op. on your insurance and they would likely refuse to cover for anything related to sarcoids in the future
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It would depend if they were fibroblastic or occult. I would not get a horse with fibroblastic sarcoids. I dealt with that with my late TB gelding, he had them up and down his ventral line, on his sheath, in his ears and on his dock. We tried all manner of treatments for a full 3 years, and he is actually one of I believe 2 horses on record to die from them. An experimental treatment is thought to have caused them to internalize and upon his necropsy we found sarcoids on his spinal cord. That killed him.

Occult sarcoids are smooth surfaced and not bleeding or raw. I have never had problems with them and would feel fine buying a horse with them.
What a terrible story, karliejaye- really sorry about your horse!

OP, my mare has both occult and nodular sarcoids in her right front "armpit" area. In my case, I have been pretty lucky. As far as I can tell, it's never made her uncomfortable. They are far enough forward that they don't bother the girth, though it's close.

I treated pretty aggressively on recommendation of my vet with a topical cream (which is actually used to treat genital warts in humans ) when I first bought her; The only reason I treated is because I went to see her one morning, and what had been a pea sized lump that looked like a little pimple had exploded into an alien looking blood filled orb 2-3 times the size of what it was. Now it is back to a little pimple, but never went away fully (though never became "angry" again). The occult sarcoid didn't respond much to the treatment, it looks like a big patch of dry skin. The nodular sarcoid is right in the middle of the occult one.

I think I'd avoid buying a horse that has sarcoids in the girth area. I've also read that the aural plaques in ears can be quite painful for horses and difficult to treat, so not sure I'd want to take that on either.
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Karliejaye. Thank you for that, I was unaware that there was more than one type. I shall certainly be more informed and able to ask the correct questions now. Have been on H&H forum and was about a 50/50 split on those that would/wouldn't buy. Thank you all for sharing your experiences.

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