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post #1 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
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Sores from leg wraps

Hi. My 23-year horse has had a bowed tendon on her right front for the last month and half. She has been on Bute, corrective shoes in the front, iced daily, and standing wraps on both front legs for support. She also has bell boots on to keep her shoes since she lost both shoes recently. She was on stall rest for a few weeks, and then the vet recommended restricted pasture turn out (smaller space just so she can feel better mentally). When the vet saw her at that time, he said to try all of these things, but ultimately, the prognosis is poor. This is due to her poor conformation and her dropped front pasterns.
The vet came out to see her yesterday for a follow-up and there has been a very tiny slight improved on her leg, however, she has developed a sore on her lower left leg. The skin is not open, but she has lost all her hair on that spot. The vet said it is because of the wraps, but at the same time, she needs the wraps for support. He recommended to leave the wraps off 6 hours a day and then put them back on.
I'm just worried that these sores will keep coming up because the wrapping will go on indefinitely. He also said that if she loses the shoes one more time, that's it. It is extremely difficult to put shoes on her because its hard for her to put all her weight on one leg.
At the same time, the barn owner who has been wrapping her for me, told me yesterday that she can't do it anymore every day. I work full time and live 45 minutes from the barn. I am looking to find a horse sitter who can go and wrap her for me in the morning, because I can't leave my job.
Does anyone have any advice? I am trying to do everything possible to make my horse comfortable and at this point I want to make sure I am making all the right decisions. I am tempted to keep the wraps off because I am afraid of sores and infection, but then I'm afraid that if they are off, something else might happen.
Any thoughts are appreciated. Thank you.
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post #2 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 10:49 AM
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That's a tough one. Have you made friends at the facility where she's at? My ranch always seems to have someone who has plenty of time in their day to help with this kind of stuff. Since she needs the support I'd leave her wrapped as much as you can.Are you using cotton on the inside of your wraps or just no bows under your wraps? You might try spraying alumigard on the rub spots or just apply Vaseline jelly to those spots to soften the skin so hopefully it won't rub so much. Good luck hopefully this will work out for you both.
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post #3 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 10:58 AM
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This is a tough situation.

At some point, one must consider the quality of life for the horse and owner and make decisions accordingly.

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post #4 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
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Hi. Yes, I know people who are very nice at the barn, but not all of them know how to wrap. There is one lady who has helped me in the past, but yesterday, jokingly, said that my horse and I are high maintenance. She did not offer to help even when I told her I need someone.
The vet gave me an ointment to put on the sores and said to put a non-stick pad, cotton, and then the no bows. She will be taken care of for the rest of the week, but then we are on our own. I have even offered to pay more every month to have her wrapped. I don't understand why there is not one, in a 50 horse barn who can help me. I am a little frustrated with this, but I need to focus on getting my horse the help she needs. One of the horse sitters I contacted responded and said she is going to try and help and if she can't she may know someone.
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Hi,
In my experience, bandage sores are caused by uneven wrapping. In this case the lower part of the wrap needs to be wrapped slightly looser. Horses that are wrapped a lot can easily get bandage sores from the wrap being wrapped unevenly 1 or 2 times. That's all it takes. If you are worried about the wrap coming off from being too lose you can try a stacked bandage that wraps around the hoof to support the wrap.

Contrary to the advice above to use vaseline I would not recommend using it as it will soften the skin. You need to keep this area as dry as possible. The next step from the hair falling off is a sore opening in the next few days if this persists. A wrap can be left on for more than a day, especially if it's wrapped well. In this situation I would prefer a well done wrap to stay on for 2 days rather than a hastily done one staying on for one day. Has your BM ever experienced this problem with horses they have wrapped in the past?

I'm not sure of your situation entirely but it sounds like the horse might be walking around more causing the rubbing, whereas she wasn't able to walk around and rub it as much on stall rest.

I would also go off your vets advice of leaving the leg unwrapped for a few hours a day to let it dry out and give the skin a rest.
Does your horse have shoes with trailers?
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post #6 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, she has shoes like that and that is why they both came off about a week after they were put on. We have been putting bell boots on and that has helped keep the shoes on. They have stayed on now for over two weeks. When the injury first happened over a month ago, the vet actually had her wrapped for three days at a time. But he was not using no bows. He put a layer of practical cotton, then sticky gauze. That stayed on for three days without a problem. I wonder if that is a better option.
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If you can afford it, you could use disposable cotton along with vet wrap and sticky wrap. The cotton is usually softer than the pillow or no bow wrap. You only need to put the sticky wrap at the top and bottom of the wrap overlapping the hair and that will help it stay up.

You can also still use pillow wraps and standing wraps along with the sticky gauze to help keep it in place if you don't want to spend a lot on the cotton and vet wrap. You might try switching out the pillow part of the wrap for something else for a while, she might irritated by the material, or possibly the wrap isn't clean, and using cotton or a different stye of wrap could help as well .
I used bell boots 1 size larger to cover the lower part of the shoe when my horse had trailers. He did initially pull them once or twice while he got used to them. He was fine after that. Hopefully she will adjust to the shoes.

Good luck!
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Ugh welcome to the "fun" part of horse ownership. Hopefully you can find someone qualified to give you a hand. If not, just bring some barn clothes, grab some food on the way then head to the barn after work. I've been out doing treatments at 9 & 10pm in the past. You just have to do whatever it takes.

I like the idea of using some different products and perhaps leaving a good wrap on a day or two. Good luck to you!
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post #9 of 12 Old 07-24-2018, 12:11 PM
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Its possible that you're not bandaging correctly or you're using products that really don't lend well to standing wraps that are on for a long period
I use foam filled 'no bow' wrap which I'll cut to size if necessary because too much bulk can cause rubs - some of these pads are designed to be cut and some you need to stitch up the frayed end
For long term use on tendon injuries I use Back On Track and cut and stitch them. They work really well and I've never had a horse rubbed by them
To hold them in place I use elasticated leg bandages not regular polo wraps. My DH brings some back with him when he goes to the UK on business trips but these look similar
https://www.horze.com/bandages/horze...ges/18030.html


Standing wraps might work better for you:
Back on Track do a nice stable wrap that gives support without the need to bandage. You can remove the inner layer if you don't want/need so much bulk and they still support the tendons
https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/ba...SABEgLzw_D_BwE
Premier Equine do a similar wrap that works in the same way but its a better price. I have both and really can't find any difference other than the price
https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/pr...SABEgL5afD_BwE

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Yes, she has shoes like that and that is why they both came off about a week after they were put on. We have been putting bell boots on and that has helped keep the shoes on. They have stayed on now for over two weeks. When the injury first happened over a month ago, the vet actually had her wrapped for three days at a time. But he was not using no bows. He put a layer of practical cotton, then sticky gauze. That stayed on for three days without a problem. I wonder if that is a better option.
Your vet wrapped for a purpose at a acute phase of treatment.
Did the vet specify to you what type of wraps and quilts/padding to use?
Did he specify what not to use???
Did he specify how often to change those wraps?
If not you should be questioning all of that as it is important...

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Hi. Yes, I know people who are very nice at the barn, but not all of them know how to wrap. There is one lady who has helped me in the past, but yesterday, jokingly, said that my horse and I are high maintenance. She did not offer to help even when I told her I need someone.
The vet gave me an ointment to put on the sores and said to put a non-stick pad, cotton, and then the no bows. She will be taken care of for the rest of the week, but then we are on our own. I have even offered to pay more every month to have her wrapped. I don't understand why there is not one, in a 50 horse barn who can help me. I am a little frustrated with this, but I need to focus on getting my horse the help she needs. One of the horse sitters I contacted responded and said she is going to try and help and if she can't she may know someone.
Dakota it is not anyone else responsibility to take care of your horse but you.
No one needs to "offer"...sorry.
Some people do not mind a very occasional one-time thing offering a hand but you refer to a ongoing need...and yes, people don't want to be tied down nor the responsibility of such treatment rendered...50 horse barn or not this is not their horse and not their responsibility.
You're going to have to pay for the service you can't or won't do yourself.
Someone at a barn of this size works here who can wrap for a purpose, speak to your B/M or B/O...
Where I use to work this was part of my job description, to do wrapping of all kinds on horses needing it and clients paying for such..a way the barn made more $$.
Bandages were R&R as needed per vet directive or as a after workout treatment...
I kept my horses their too and honestly, I would not make a offer to wrap anothers horse.
It had nothing to do with the barn collecting fees...it had everything to do with not having to do it, not having the responsibility to be at the barn to do it if I decided to leave work and not ride my horse that day...it was not my responsibility unless you paid my boss and I did such as part of my days chores needing done that day in addition to my many tasks.
Sorry but this one is all your responsibility...
This is the stuff that is not fun owning a horse..the doctoring and being responsible for care and any further problems. You need to figure it out as you are the horses owner. The healing outcome is squarely in your hands.
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