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post #11 of 13 Old 05-27-2013, 10:33 PM
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Oh & OP, tell us more about your chronic laminitic - perhaps we can help you get/keep him sound so you don't have to get another??
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post #12 of 13 Old 05-27-2013, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
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My chronic laminitic mare is a 10 yo 1/2 Welsh, 1/4 Arabian, 1/4 Paint mess my mother bought as a casual riding horse because she thought she wouldn't be afraid of a small horse. It did not work out, and she never rode her, but turned her out on 40 acres of fescue. She got very obese, and was not seeing a farrier regularly. She had a severe case of founder in May 2010, and was seen by a vet and put in corrective heart-bar shoes, put on bute, and locked in a small pen with little feed. When I moved here for grad school and went to get her, she'd gotten very thin because the vet had told my mother basically to starve her. I set up a small stall with a run and kept her in corrective shoes for about six months. She seemed to feel much better, but her hoof condition deteriorated. I got the ok from my farrier to take her barefoot, then switched to working with a barefoot trimmer. At this time she was sound enough to walk or trot around the yard, and I fenced a larger dry lot for her (about an acre, wooded). After a few months of barefoot trimming, she was more comfortable and her hooves started to regain concavity. I had to blanket her the first winter because she was miserable, and have continued to do so out of habit. I have been feeding her local grass hay and a small amount alfalfa pellets. She also gets Quiessence and SmartVite EZ-Keeper. Her hay is fed twice a day, or three times if my husband or I are home to do it. This year we got orchard grass/alfalfa mix hay from Kentucky due to the drought, so I switched to timothy pellets to complement it. I did not have this hay tested as I didn't really have a choice about buying it. I also started using slow feed nets since she gets less of it. I am aware that some people think alfalfa is bad for laminitic horses. New research discredits this (I'll find the papers I read again if necessary), and the extra protein is really helping her rebuild muscle. She has gotten progressively more sound, but as soon as I think she's actually getting better, she relapses again. She will relapse every year when the temperatures are over 100 degrees, and seemingly randomly otherwise. This year she finally started to regain some of her lost muscle. When she is sound, she can trot over gravel without boots, cross steep, rocky terrain, make quick turns and canter easily (like a real horse, omg). We had made it several months this time, but when the spring temperature fluctuations came, her feet got hot and she acted stiff. I put her on bute until the heat went away, and put her on rest to let the laminae heal, but that was about 8 weeks ago, and she was still lethargic last time I tried to ride her at a walk over flat ground. She is cantering in her paddock again, and she does not stand in the founder stance. Throughout these episodes, her feet have maintained concavity and have not generally changed shape for the worse. I have talked to the vet, and he has no further advice for me. He says she looks better than I should expect given her original condition. He even suggested that she go out on pasture. (I know she cannot do that if there's any substantial amount of grass, however.) She does not have Cushings, so it is unlikely Pergolide would help. Her diet is low NSC. I exercise her when she's able. I'm at a loss, so I got another horse to ride and resolved to keep her as comfortable as possible for as long as possible. I feel responsible for her since she's in this condition because of my mom's neglect, and my mom was trying to give her away. We've also had her since she was about 6 months old. I was still in high school when she was purchased, and did some of her initial training. I have considered having her euthanized since she's not really rideable, but she is happy and not in that much pain, so that's unfair to her. No one else is going to take care of her for me. So I'm stuck with her, and at this point, am not really able to do much else for her. I have done A LOT of research on laminitis, and I'm doing everything I can think of. Maybe some of you have heard of something I have not. I will not put her out on pasture, and I will not shoe her, but other than that I'm open to suggestions.
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I forgot to add that I weigh her hay periodically, and always weigh the pellets. I used FeedXL to determine correct amounts, and have kept an eye on weight loss/gain. I separate her from the other horse in the evening if they are both on the dry lot so that she hopefully gets as close to what she should as possible.
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