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post #1 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
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Stifle? Hocks? SI? Kissing Spines?

First I just want to say I will be calling the vet to make an appointment. But in the meantime I just wanted to get some opinions as to what I might be dealing with. I have an 18 year old OTTB who got his stifles injected using PRP about a year ago- so he is due to get them again.
But I am getting different signs of pain from him this time around. He had the winter off and when brought back into work it was done slowly. He was great in all 3 gaits for a couple months- really showing improvement when all of a sudden he didn’t want to go forward and would back up and rear at least once every ride. I’ve had rides where he would do it more- I thought he was doing this out of avoidance of the aids and just kicked him forward and he would eventually start going ok again until the next time he would do it. Than he started skipping/hopping behind at the canter in both directions and would just fall apart behind and could not hold the canter. Now he is switching leads behind. He is getting harder to get round/on the bit. Transitions have gone down hill. He does this in both my dressage and jump saddle and also bareback (which makes me believe it is not a saddle related issue). He does not do this on the lunge line in the canter (without a saddle). He has gotten physio work done during all of this as well. He does bite the cross ties when being tacked up, has started to raise his head when bridling (he use to reach for the bit so huge change), he has started to nip at me when we go to walk to the ring (again out of character), he went from being a forward guy on the ground to walking quite slow.
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post #2 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 10:12 PM
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I'm unfamiliar with stifles and hocks, but have ulcers been ruled out? Just a thought. Hope you get him fixed up soon. <3
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post #3 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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He has not been scoped for ulcers. But I don’t think the canter signs would play a role with that. Although I might be wrong. I will discuss that with the vet when I make the appointment though.
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post #4 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 10:50 PM
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Sounds like an injury. I wouldn't be riding or working him until the vet does a complete lameness exam with x-rays of back and hocks. Maybe hips too. Make sure he goes to an equine specialist.
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post #5 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 11:01 PM
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It could be his stifles. I think ultimately it's speculation until the vet sees him. Posting a video would help but he needs to be seen either way. Please update when the vet comes out. I would definitely have him look into the si/hocks/stifles, but I'm sure he would want to do that anyways (at least I would hope).

If he's miserable enough to be acting up on the ground I absolutely wouldn't be doing anything with him until the vet ok's it and the horse is happy. Acting up on the ground can be a sign of ulcers but since he clearly has something going on I'm guessing he's just trying to tell you about it in every way he can.
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post #6 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 11:16 PM
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What was the PRP to treat originally? What was the diagnosis with the stifles last time?


First impression would be stifles and SI.
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post #7 of 15 Old 06-16-2019, 11:22 PM Thread Starter
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The PRP was for his stifles a little over a year ago. Didn’t do the “traditional” joint injections because he also has been healing from liver disease. So very careful with what goes into him.

I will definitely let you guys know what the vet says. I’ll be taking him to a specialist- the same one I took him to for the PRP injections. I feel very confident that he will look into everything that it could possibly be.
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post #8 of 15 Old 06-17-2019, 12:35 AM
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But what was the prp treating? General joint inflammation? Soft tissue injury? Arthritis? Does he have stifle instability?
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post #9 of 15 Old 06-17-2019, 07:03 AM Thread Starter
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General joint inflammation. Xrays did not show any arthritis at that time.
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post #10 of 15 Old 06-17-2019, 12:38 PM
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The things you mention with the liver and the joint inflammation could be related and signs of something going in inside that's not just as simple as injecting hocks and stifles for maintenance.

That said, 18 is getting up there, especially if this horse has been performing all it's life.
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