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post #11 of 81 Old 08-30-2012, 10:20 PM
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Is these his front or hind pasterns?

Desitin for diaper rash works very well.
Preparation H can also work very well.
Sometimes a really tough one needs to be wrapped with a padded wrap and sweat with Furacin salve.

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Pastern Dermatitis - GVEC LLC

“Scratches”, “mud fever”, and “greasy heel” are all familiar terms for pastern dermatitis, a common equine skin problem. Technically, pastern dermatitis is not a single disease but a generic skin reaction to a variety of causes. The skin irritation is most often visible at the back of the pasterns and heels, but can sometimes extend along the entire lower limb. Initially signs may be limited to redness and scaling, but they often progress to oozing of fluid (serum) from the skin, matting of hair, and development of crusts. Chronic cases can become very ugly indeed, as the skin becomes thickened and swollen. It may even develop bumpy, mass-like tissue. This condition is very painful for the horse, and can cause lameness in some cases.
“Scratches” is most commonly seen on white-colored hind legs of all breeds of horses. It can be unilateral (one sided), or bilateral (involving both right and left limbs). It may affect all four legs. Most cases seen in our region are due to bacterial folliculitis (bacterial infection), but other causes include contact irritation from caustic substances, mites, fungal infection, and photosensitization related to pasture plant toxicity.


Pastern Dermatitis - GVEC LLC
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Yes I use Desitin but it seems odd that a horse without feathers would get this, but he DOES have white legs, which leads me to believe it's not scratches but is Photosensitivity. Please read this vet's article about it. The Horse | Photosensitization in the Horse

Please, please call a vet - this is a serious issue that will ONLY get worse if left untreated. If it is photosensitivity desitin may hide the problem but not fix it. Please contact a vet about this, this risk is worth the cost.
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The Photosensitivity cases I have seen had a lot more swelling and a lot more discharge. They involved the entire white leg and any face markings, not just the back of the pasterns.

The reason I asked if these were front or back pasterns is that geldings sometimes splash urine on their front pasterns while mares splash urine on the hind pasterns. This can burn the skin and cause sores like those in the photos. This can be greatly exacerbated by feeding more protein than the horse needs and there is an excess of ammonia present. I have cleared up many cases of this just by dropping protein levels -- less alfalfa and less high protein concentrates. Any barn where the Ammonia burns your eyes and lungs when you go in in the morning, is telling you that too much protein is being fed.
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From the sound of the article it does sound like this may be scratches. We will look into have one of the vets out for sure, it's obviously rather painful for the poor boy and I'd like to get it cleared up as soon as possible. Thanks for the input everyone, it's very helpful!
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Looks like scratches to me...
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Scratches, mud fever, or dew poisoning all the same thing. Most often occurs on pink skin which would be his white socks.
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I agree. Also, you don't need a vet for something like this. It's very common, and can be very painful, but easily fixed. Please don't take the advice of getting this horse on antibiotics. There is no need for that, and all it will do is weaken your horse's immune system even if you use probiotics. Antibiotics are way over prescribed.

I would use Resolve wound formula, it will dry it up, & hair over fast. If it's fungal that will get rid of it. Also, you could wrap first night ichthammol (I do not use furison at all), then in the morning gently slough off the scabs. This will do a more gentle job vs. picking off the scabs, which you need to get off there. I use disposable diapers & vetrap for this location. Wrap w/ resolve first couple days, then use it dry one or two times a day depending where you keep your horse.

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Has anyone here used Vetricyn for Scratches? I no longer stall horses so it is never a problem any more. I think the Vitamin A we feed protects the horses on pasture from dew poisoning just like it does from rain rot. But, I have wondered if Vetricyn worked for this. Just curious if anyone has tried it.

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Once it is let to get this bad the infection can spread internally. I would want a vet to look at it and a simple blood draw can tell you if there is an infection and how bad. Antibiotics may be needed. If an infection exists it is possible that if not properly treated it can infect the blood and travel from there.

Yes, antibiotics are overused quite often but sometimes they are very much needed.
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Has anyone here used Vetricyn for Scratches? I no longer stall horses so it is never a problem any more. I think the Vitamin A we feed protects the horses on pasture from dew poisoning just like it does from rain rot. But, I have wondered if Vetricyn worked for this. Just curious if anyone has tried it.
I have used it on everything but honestly I find Microtek works better, for my mare anyway. And it's cheaper per ounce.
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