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post #1 of 51 Old 02-24-2019, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
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What is causing the poops?

My gelding has the poops his tail is a mess it's all over his hind legs it's just gross. He feels fine eating good nothing has changed same hay same feed when he'll eat it. He's up to date on worming, fecal egg count is low. No sand in gut was tested plus there is no sand available with 3 feet of snow on ground. This has been going on, on and off now for a while this is the worst it's been. He looks to be losing some weight not thin but leaner then a month ago. What the heck is going on with him???

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post #2 of 51 Old 02-24-2019, 09:43 AM
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Do you rotate different wormers? Or do you use a feed through wormer?
Not to long ago another member mentioned her horse had loose stools and she was giving him something to control it. At a stable I used to board at another boarder's horse started this and the BO told her to stop the feed through wormer and after she did the diarrhea stopped..

How long ago was the fecal count done?
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Wormers I use are zimectrin & quest plus worm spring and fall. Did fecal just two months ago when he was having this trouble. Never have used daily dewormers he wouldn't eat it half the time he wont eat hard feed.
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@Acadianartist is someone who has a gelding she's had a similar problem with. Maybe she has some advice?
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I have struggled with this every winter in Harley. All winter long. This year, I tried a mix of slippery elm bark and licorice root. It's pretty well resolved. There is still the occasional wetter poop, but his tail is no longer one big poopsicle and his legs stay clean most of the time. I first started him on Gastra-FX by Omega Alpha, but looked at the ingredient list and replicated it at home buying the herbs in bulk, which I ordered online from Ameriherb. Much cheaper and it seems to work just as well. I didn't add the marshmallow root because it has similar effects as slippery elm bark, but you could try that too. It's fairly easy to google appropriate quantities. This is used for foals that have scours, among other things so it can be used to treat diarrhea.

PS I had tried all the pre and pro-biotics in the world and none really helped long-term. He is wormed regularly too, and has very low worm counts every time I do a fecal. This is the only thing that seems to be working long-term. Note of caution: licorice root can only be taken for 3 months at a time, and then you have to take a 2 week break. But you can start it again after the two week break if you need to.

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@Acadianartist ,thanks I'll give the slippery elm and licorice root a try. I looked up Ameriherb great prices on bulk herbs.

How to clean him up when it's cold out ??no heated barn. It can't be good to have poop crusted legs and butt. Plus he's stinky.
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post #7 of 51 Old 02-24-2019, 11:53 AM
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Sorry, no suggestions for his problem. But just a suggestion for the clean-up issue. Personally, I'd clean him up as best as possible them spray the area and tail with Show Sheen. That stuff is so slick that it might make it easer to clean off. ??????
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@rambo99 I have been dealing with this, though Misty's droppings are much more formed, for a year this month. Like Arcadianartist, not much luck with pre/probiotics (Misty gets some in her vit/min supplements so I added extra).

I started using a product that has what Arcadianartist posted, except for the licorice root, and though it hasn't stopped completely, has certainly eased up. Will be purchasing the herbs at bulk and mixing my own, much cheaper!

What I did, and still do though not as often , to clean Misty's back end issues as well as the legs, is wash off with warm water and towel dry best as I can. I also apply bag balm to the buttock area as that seems to be most sensitive. I have bagged her tail, using a technique some one on HF posted and that has helped with the clean up too.

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I believe encrusted small strongyles don't show up in a fecal test and may cause this. I struggled with this issue when I first purchased my mare. It took two wormings 6 months apart to clean her up (spring and fall), no problem with this since, but it was very bad for awhile. Look at something with Pyrantel in it to worm with. I think March is supposed to be a good month to worm for this when the strongyles are migrating.
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Can't say what's causing it, but I resolved watery manure completely in my horse by doing a couple things.

First I took him off all long stem fiber, and had him on just pellets. The watery manure went away right away. I was able to introduce chopped hay a few days later. I cut some hay by hand into gradually longer and longer stems over a month or more until he was back on half pellets and half hay without any issues. Waited a while on that combo for another month or more and then switched the last feeding of pellets over to hay. Haven't had any problems since.
I also give him alfalfa pellets as a carrier for Daily Gold, a clay supplement, and I was giving him psyllium daily as well, but recently stopped the psyllium since it's been several months and I'm sure if there was some sand hiding in there it's gone by now.

He had nothing showing up for sand tests, had been wormed recently, and got the ok by the equine dentist and vet while he was having the manure issues. He had these issues for several years before I got him and started doing test after test to stop it in the time I've owned him.

I used baby wipes to clean off his bottom, or a warm rag if you can manage that. Then I applied cortisone creme to the raw areas down his legs and would massage it in. I would also apply coconut oil to help the manure slip off the hair, which sometimes worked and sometimes didn't. Just to give a break in the steroid use.

Using mucilaginous herbs such as licorice, slippery elm, and mallow will create a barrier in the stomach lining. If it's from irritation to the GI tract those should help. I used the daily gold because it will create a similar type of slip, and also being basic, will help buffer any excess acids and move built up toxins through. I am not sure of the acidic or basic properties of mucilaginous herbs, however they should help clear up anything that's gotten trapped in there, similar to psyllium, which is also a mucilage.
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