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post #11 of 51 Old 02-24-2019, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Wouldn't quest plus take care of all the worms? he was wormed late fall early winter with quest plus. Sure won't hurt to worm again though. Taking him off long stem forage good idea. But he doesn't do alfalfa pellets or really any kind of pelleted feed, Might eat it once or twice and that's as good as it gets. I'll be lucky to get any kind of supplement into him will have to syringe it in him,can't count on him eating it out of feed.

Got him cleaned up and braided his tail so hopefully it doesn't get as gross,used warm water then towel dried him wasn't raw so that was good. I'll give vet a call tomorrow see what he says. Feed pan has nothing in it just some snow & ice,put feed in it he'll have nothing to do with it goof ball.
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I think if you stopped offering hay and only offered pellets he would figure out how to eat them, but if he didn't then I would be concerned. Not just that he wasn't eating, but that he is only willing to eat just 1 thing.

If he isn't eating a carrier for supplements, herbs, salts, clay, etc, how are you planning to feed them to him? Some things like the bentonite clay are easy to create a paste and feed with a syringe, however mucilaginous herbs are going to be difficult to administer that way.
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Horses who won't eat dry pellets might eat them as a warm mash with a bit of molasses and salt in the water for flavor. Don't overdo the molasses of course. if he'll eat that it would be easier to sneak in herbs too.
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Not sure how I'll get the herbs in him haven't ordered any yet. Just put out big round bales, not real keen on no hay and just pelleted feed when so cold out. He'll spend to many hours with nothing to eat.

I did try at one time making only the hard feed available he went 24 hours never touched the feed. To cold to be letting him go without feed ,going to be - 15 tonight and even colder next few nights.

Currently have no feed, gave last two bags I had to my freind her horse's will eat anything. So would have to go get another bag or two.

@Avna , could try the molasses in just dampened feed soaked or to wet and he won't eat it.

Maybe vet can tube something in him that will stop the runny poops. .will see what he says.
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They certainly make antidiuretics for horses, but I don't think it will solve your problem long term at all.

You could look for an "All in one" or "Alfalfa and molasses" product to try, they also make it with grain hays and oats. I've never had a horse refuse it. It comes with the molasses already in a fine chopped hay or oats. Like anything else with molasses you need to feed sparingly.
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Here's my mushy poop recipe, I feed it usually for just two days and see an improvement to hay changes or weather changes which seem to be the trigger.
1/4 pound grass hay pellets soaked in warm water, 1 cup aloe vera juice, 1 oz Gatorade (fruit punch flavor), 4 Tbsp canned pumpkin, 1 cup cooked oatmeal.
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@Acadianartist ,thanks I'll give the slippery elm and licorice root a try. I looked up Ameriherb great prices on bulk herbs.

How to clean him up when it's cold out ??no heated barn. It can't be good to have poop crusted legs and butt. Plus he's stinky.
I wait for a warmish day (around freezing or just above is the best we get here), then bathe with warm water (I have a kettle in the barn to heat water), rinse well, and towel dry, then cover him up. I ONLY wash the areas that are bad. Even though a blanket doesn't cover those areas, it keeps him warm elsewhere so he has enough body heat to dry his bum and back legs. I have kept him in for a couple of hours if needed to make sure he is dry. I've also wrapped his tail in a towel for a bit in an effort to soak up the moisture.

For small areas, baby wipes work well. But yeah, it's horrible to have to deal with this in the winter.
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Here's my mushy poop recipe, I feed it usually for just two days and see an improvement to hay changes or weather changes which seem to be the trigger.
1/4 pound grass hay pellets soaked in warm water, 1 cup aloe vera juice, 1 oz Gatorade (fruit punch flavor), 4 Tbsp canned pumpkin, 1 cup cooked oatmeal.

Interesting recipe @Boo Walker , how did you come up with it?
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On the deworming again option, I wouldn't if he is showing low worm counts. That's just me, but if you think there's any possibility at all of ulcers, only deworm when you have to.

The reason I say this is that Harley used to get dewormed monthly in his previous home. I believe this may have stripped his gut flora.

Someone mentioned clay - I did use bentonite clay for Harley for a while. It seemed to help, but did not completely clear up the problem. On the other hand, after about two months on the slippery elm bark and licorice root, he rarely has loose stool anymore. Still, the bentonite clay might be worth trying if the licorice root and slippery elm bark don't work. It's not terribly expensive either.

Editing to add: just read that he won't eat wet feed. Harley wouldn't either, until I started adding a drop of peppermint oil. Now he cleans it up. Just an idea... you just have to find edible essential oils. That's if he likes peppermint...
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@Acadianartist yes he likes peppermint also like fruit punch Gatorade so could try either one. He hasn't had any kind of hard feed now for a while. So might eat it now. yes the herbs are sure cheap enough, bentonite clay is another good idea. Will start with the herbs see if he improves. Can't throw to many things in the feed pan he'll go on strike again.


I did get him cleaned up with warm water then dried him real good with towels put his blanket back on. All my work was undone. Already has poop running down legs butt and braided tail is well poop covered.

@Boo Walker , thanks another thing to try sounds easy enough. Gives more things to try if others fail.
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