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post #31 of 69 Old 08-22-2019, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Yikes!! I wouldn't go anywhere near gentian violet. It's potentially dangerous stuff. And there are alternatives out there. You need veterinary guidance because some topicals do a lot more harm than good.
If it doesn't appear to be getting better by saturday I'll make the call. It's thursday night so tomorrow and then Saturday.

My neighbor told me to get that. I generally don't do the herbals without talking to someone on that. She said she had a recipe where you mix it but I don't have the recipe so probably won't use it anyway.

I am hoping this poultice will make a difference.

I did measure it and it is less poofed but not by much.

I have all the basic medical stuff and then this is also a bunch of "stuff" I have as well
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If you're on Horse Vet Corner on Facebook you could post there and ask about it. You'll probably be told to have it biopsied, though. They might be able to tell you what treatments are okay for it topically, though, in the meantime. Or at least, which ones not to use.

I know the vets there seem to hate all the "kote" products, as the main active ingredient is alcohol which, according to their posts, kills healthy cells and impairs healing -- and also makes it impossible to suture if you use it on a fresh injury.
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If you're on Horse Vet Corner on Facebook you could post there and ask about it. You'll probably be told to have it biopsied, though. They might be able to tell you what treatments are okay for it topically, though, in the meantime. Or at least, which ones not to use.

I know the vets there seem to hate all the "kote" products, as the main active ingredient is alcohol which, according to their posts, kills healthy cells and impairs healing -- and also makes it impossible to suture if you use it on a fresh injury.
That's interesting about the Kote. I generally use that on superficial injuries that don't have any skin - like scrapes but I've always had good results from it. I will have to research that more.

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Ewww. I've had horses for 30+ years as well and I have no idea what that is. It would be alarming to me for it getting so large so quick, and being so close to the coronet band.


For myself, I would have been going to the vet to see what she thought and/or have it cultured.
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Not knowing the cause makes treating it tough!
I had a lot of the same thoughts as others mentioned but I have no idea.

From my experience,(I too am one comfortable treating things myself) given it became big and angry in a short amount of time I would avoid scrubbing. I would clean gently and keep wrapped to keep clean and somewhat compressed since it's on a part that moves a lot, even to just shift his weight. Basically at this point would treat it much like aggressive proud flesh and see if it changes.

I would avoid the "Kote" products for this one. I like them for superficial things that don't require consistent doctoring. More like spray it on and turn them out minor wounds.

The Vetricyn and Curicyn sprays/liquid I've had the best luck with puncture wounds not much with anything else. I'd use it to gently clean but not really treat.

I'd try the honey route because of its healing properties without chemicals to aggravate the flesh. I too would deworm Ivermec just for S & Gs.

If you end up getting the vet involved, I would be really curious on the diagnosis.
I hope he heals up!
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At the very least, I'd want that cultured and biopsied. It could be sporotrichosis or pythiosis or nothing, but without at least SOME diagnostic info, it could end up being very difficult to treat.
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Thing is vets ideas of emergencies are very different. Same with doctors. Their idea of not an emergency isn't a green light to relax, just a light to let you know not to lose your mind over it. Had to learn that one the hard way myself once. Experienced with more than the average owner in exotic ailments I also am a fan of the let nature do its thing, the wait and see club, but even I think you are pushing the limit here. My limit I mean. I also hate this trial method of treatment I would rather just know than waste products and potentially risk compromising it with the wrong one. Where it is, its size and greater risk of secondary infection is what worries me most. Glad you posted however as was not aware of summer sores at all in horses, another one to shelve in my mind thanks!
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I know the vets there seem to hate all the "kote" products, as the main active ingredient is alcohol which, according to their posts, kills healthy cells and impairs healing -- and also makes it impossible to suture if you use it on a fresh injury.[/QUOTE]


I just had a vet two days ago tell me the fungus Kote spray was garbage and to use human Tinactin instead. I liked the blue stain the Kote left, made me feel like it was really working. I was also using MTG, I suspect that's why the hair is already growing back after just a couple days from when the sore was at its worst.


I wish I could see the pictures from this work computer. I have been looking at ringworm daily now with Reno. But it sounds like no one thinks thats what it is.
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I'd give the blue lotion a try. I use it on various things and it works well for a variety. I thought pythosis (sp) too. I also thought the furazone could have potentially caused quite a bit of irritation. I'd have the vet out or haul whichever it is you do.
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There is improvement. The edges are looking better and the proud flesh is down quite a bit. Proud flesh bleeds alot so everytime I scrub it, there is blood but there is improvement all along the edges and the poofiness is down quite a bit. Hard to tell from the pics but there is a change.
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