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I would not say 5 or 6. At all.
I think they look good. 4.5-5??
Definitely at a good weight though wherever you'd "score them". They're what I'd call a "healthy lean" (from those pics at least).
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I think they look good. 4.5-5??
Definitely at a good weight though wherever you'd "score them". They're what I'd call a "healthy lean" (from those pics at least).
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The paint is a little more lean than I like unless in steady work (which means riding 6 days a week at least 2 hours a day). When looking at the rear you see the hint of "poor" or "poverty" lines from the tail head along the back of the buttock to the gaskin.
I would like to see those filled in a little more.
I would like to see those filled in a little more.
There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. ~Winston Churchill
(or woman!!!!

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I would not say 5 or 6. At all.
I think they look good. 4.5-5??
Definitely at a good weight though wherever you'd "score them". They're what I'd call a "healthy lean" (from those pics at least).
The Henneke Body Condition Scoring System | Habitat For Horses
I think they look good. 4.5-5??
Definitely at a good weight though wherever you'd "score them". They're what I'd call a "healthy lean" (from those pics at least).
The Henneke Body Condition Scoring System | Habitat For Horses
I give them 6 qts of grain, 3 sweet feed and 3 oats total per day year round and hay. In Summer they graze 24/7, actually they are in the pasture 24/7 year round. I guess more hay in the summer will get them more overall weight
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The paint is a little more lean than I like unless in steady work (which means riding 6 days a week at least 2 hours a day). When looking at the rear you see the hint of "poor" or "poverty" lines from the tail head along the back of the buttock to the gaskin.
I would like to see those filled in a little more.
I would like to see those filled in a little more.
what would fill that outlined area in that you highlighted?
riding more would help also?
More calories. That should fill that area out.
There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. ~Winston Churchill
(or woman!!!!

Yes, they are fine where they are but you wouldn't want them any thinner. Personally if they aren't being worked I would like them just a tad heavier (a tad). Better than too heavy though, which is so common.
Yes more hay. They should basically have free choice. Idk how much they are getting now. I'm a little concerned that they are getting that much feed and don't look it at all. That's a lot for a horse in little work. Their weight is acceptable but with that amount of food I'd expect them to be much (too) heavier.
Ditch the sweet feed and find something better. Personally I would ditch the oats too. Are they UTD on worming?
If my horses were getting that much they'd be fat AND bouncing off the walls. We feed a pretty basic grain and they get maybe 4 qts a day, usually less (we have a range of sizes and some health/weight issues).
Yes more hay. They should basically have free choice. Idk how much they are getting now. I'm a little concerned that they are getting that much feed and don't look it at all. That's a lot for a horse in little work. Their weight is acceptable but with that amount of food I'd expect them to be much (too) heavier.
Ditch the sweet feed and find something better. Personally I would ditch the oats too. Are they UTD on worming?
If my horses were getting that much they'd be fat AND bouncing off the walls. We feed a pretty basic grain and they get maybe 4 qts a day, usually less (we have a range of sizes and some health/weight issues).
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Originally Posted by Yogiwick View Post
Yes, they are fine where they are but you wouldn't want them any thinner. Personally if they aren't being worked I would like them just a tad heavier (a tad). Better than too heavy though, which is so common.
Yes more hay. They should basically have free choice. Idk how much they are getting now. I'm a little concerned that they are getting that much feed and don't look it at all. That's a lot for a horse in little work. Their weight is acceptable but with that amount of food I'd expect them to be much (too) heavier.
Ditch the sweet feed and find something better. Personally I would ditch the oats too. Are they UTD on worming?
If my horses were getting that much they'd be fat AND bouncing off the walls. We feed a pretty basic grain and they get maybe 4 qts a day, usually less (we have a range of sizes and some health/weight issues).
Yes more hay. They should basically have free choice. Idk how much they are getting now. I'm a little concerned that they are getting that much feed and don't look it at all. That's a lot for a horse in little work. Their weight is acceptable but with that amount of food I'd expect them to be much (too) heavier.
Ditch the sweet feed and find something better. Personally I would ditch the oats too. Are they UTD on worming?
If my horses were getting that much they'd be fat AND bouncing off the walls. We feed a pretty basic grain and they get maybe 4 qts a day, usually less (we have a range of sizes and some health/weight issues).
If your horse got the 4 qts of grain but less hay, would they be as big?
What would you recommend aside from oats/sweet feed? I always heard oats were the best thing you can give a horse.
Do a fecal, even if they are UTD they can still have some.
Check with your vet for a schedule. It will depend on your area, worms, resistances, etc.
We worm with ivermectin every 8 weeks and double dose strongid 2x/year. Works for us. May not work for everyone. Some people just check fecals regularly and rarely need to worm.
The primary weight builder is forage, aka hay. My Arab who is becoming less of an easy keeper as he ages is currently getting 1 3/4 qt basic grain and 2 flakes 2x/day plus what's left of the pasture all day. My taller and heavier MFT with health and now weight issues is getting 2 1/2 qts of his special grain and 3 flakes.
If it worked out to feed them more hay/forage we could feed less grain, but this is what works for us atm. So yes, the hay is for weight, feed them less hay and less overall they WILL lose weight. (Plus it's far more healthy to feed more hay less grain).
What brands do you have available at your local feed store?
Look up on here and check this out: Feeding Oats to Horses – The Whole Picture | The Feed Room (skimmed it but seems informative)
Oats seem to be more of a thing of the past (yes they did used to be a big thing, so did lots of other things) and I won't ever use them. Since I haven't used them I don't know all the details but I'm sure someone else can explain it better but the main reasons outlined in that article are enough for me!
Definitely get rid of the sweet feed though. It's not nutritious or healthy.
Check with your vet for a schedule. It will depend on your area, worms, resistances, etc.
We worm with ivermectin every 8 weeks and double dose strongid 2x/year. Works for us. May not work for everyone. Some people just check fecals regularly and rarely need to worm.
The primary weight builder is forage, aka hay. My Arab who is becoming less of an easy keeper as he ages is currently getting 1 3/4 qt basic grain and 2 flakes 2x/day plus what's left of the pasture all day. My taller and heavier MFT with health and now weight issues is getting 2 1/2 qts of his special grain and 3 flakes.
If it worked out to feed them more hay/forage we could feed less grain, but this is what works for us atm. So yes, the hay is for weight, feed them less hay and less overall they WILL lose weight. (Plus it's far more healthy to feed more hay less grain).
What brands do you have available at your local feed store?
Look up on here and check this out: Feeding Oats to Horses – The Whole Picture | The Feed Room (skimmed it but seems informative)
Oats seem to be more of a thing of the past (yes they did used to be a big thing, so did lots of other things) and I won't ever use them. Since I haven't used them I don't know all the details but I'm sure someone else can explain it better but the main reasons outlined in that article are enough for me!
Definitely get rid of the sweet feed though. It's not nutritious or healthy.
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Originally Posted by Yogiwick View Post
Do a fecal, even if they are UTD they can still have some.
Check with your vet for a schedule. It will depend on your area, worms, resistances, etc.
We worm with ivermectin every 8 weeks and double dose strongid 2x/year. Works for us. May not work for everyone. Some people just check fecals regularly and rarely need to worm.
The primary weight builder is forage, aka hay. My Arab who is becoming less of an easy keeper as he ages is currently getting 1 3/4 qt basic grain and 2 flakes 2x/day plus what's left of the pasture all day. My taller and heavier MFT with health and now weight issues is getting 2 1/2 qts of his special grain and 3 flakes.
If it worked out to feed them more hay/forage we could feed less grain, but this is what works for us atm. So yes, the hay is for weight, feed them less hay and less overall they WILL lose weight. (Plus it's far more healthy to feed more hay less grain).
What brands do you have available at your local feed store?
Look up on here and check this out: Feeding Oats to Horses – The Whole Picture | The Feed Room (skimmed it but seems informative)
Oats seem to be more of a thing of the past (yes they did used to be a big thing, so did lots of other things) and I won't ever use them. Since I haven't used them I don't know all the details but I'm sure someone else can explain it better but the main reasons outlined in that article are enough for me!
Definitely get rid of the sweet feed though. It's not nutritious or healthy.
Check with your vet for a schedule. It will depend on your area, worms, resistances, etc.
We worm with ivermectin every 8 weeks and double dose strongid 2x/year. Works for us. May not work for everyone. Some people just check fecals regularly and rarely need to worm.
The primary weight builder is forage, aka hay. My Arab who is becoming less of an easy keeper as he ages is currently getting 1 3/4 qt basic grain and 2 flakes 2x/day plus what's left of the pasture all day. My taller and heavier MFT with health and now weight issues is getting 2 1/2 qts of his special grain and 3 flakes.
If it worked out to feed them more hay/forage we could feed less grain, but this is what works for us atm. So yes, the hay is for weight, feed them less hay and less overall they WILL lose weight. (Plus it's far more healthy to feed more hay less grain).
What brands do you have available at your local feed store?
Look up on here and check this out: Feeding Oats to Horses – The Whole Picture | The Feed Room (skimmed it but seems informative)
Oats seem to be more of a thing of the past (yes they did used to be a big thing, so did lots of other things) and I won't ever use them. Since I haven't used them I don't know all the details but I'm sure someone else can explain it better but the main reasons outlined in that article are enough for me!
Definitely get rid of the sweet feed though. It's not nutritious or healthy.
it should be very visible to see worms in the waste?
The sweet feed is your only feed option? I'm confused.
Worms are not always visible so not reliable. Fecals are cheap.
Worms are not always visible so not reliable. Fecals are cheap.
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