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post #1 of 8 Old 04-25-2015, 06:10 PM Thread Starter
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why can't she eat?

My mare had her teeth done in November for difficulty eating. The vet spent an hour removing points but didn't see anything that seemed wrong.

Despite this my mare still is not eating well. Her jaw seems to be clicking or something? You can hear a noise when she chews. Not sure if it is tooth related or not.

I'm thinking of getting a second opinion and maybe x rays? Or should I call the vet who did her teeth the last time? I think the vet missed the problem on the last visit. Honestly the last float did not help at all and if anything made her worse.

Do you need x rays to tell if she has an infected tooth? Or could she have jaw arthritis?

Her weight is okay, considering. But she has always been an easy keeper. Last summer she only needed a handful of grain a day. I'm certain there has to be something hurting, rather than her teeth being worn out.
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Is your Vet an equine specialist from a large equine center or is your Vet a 'country Vet' with a mixed practice?

If you have a country Vet, it may be time to call an equine specialist. The equine specialist we call for tough things has a portable x-ray unit that shows the x-ray on a computer screen about 30 seconds after he take the shot. He does the tough stuff. Our country Vet does everything else.

But, to put things in perspective, our country Vet charges a $60.00 call charge (comes 20 miles) and castrates horses for $90.00. He also spays out dogs or cats at his clinic. He is an excellent cow Vet and works on our bison. He actually raises bison.

The Equine specialist works out of a big clinic with full surgery facilities that is 75 miles away. He only lives 30 miles from us and only charges $100.00 for a call. But, he gets $350.00 to castrate a colt. So, I call him when I need x-rays or am completely stumped on something.

I think you need the equine specialist. Most charge a lot less when you bring the horse to their clinic. If you have a big training or breeding center near where you live, call them and see who they recommend that is an Equine specialist or works out of a big Equine Clinic.

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I agree with Cherie.

It might be worth it [after, perhaps, getting a second opinion on her teeth] to get her head xrayed, just to make sure she wasn't been kicked in the head and fractured her jaw/experienced some other kind of head trauma.

Did the vet use a power float or a hand float when he did her teeth?

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post #4 of 8 Old 04-26-2015, 03:04 AM
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Above posters make some valid points....

To me, it sounds like your horse may have a locking jaw on one side.
Clicking sounds is the joint popping as it tries to open and close, possibly.
If it is this the jaw needs to be professionally manipulated to rehab that joint as by this time the muscles of the "locked" side have atrophied some.
It is painful for the horse, therefore they avoid the pain by not eating much and may lose weight.
From November till now is a long time for the horse to not be feeling well and a second opinion/look-see should be scheduled ASAP so instead of the horse failing it thrives....

Depending upon how much you trust your vet that did the float would dictate to me whether I called and asked them back for a re-exam or not....
If you choose a equine dentist...get some recommendations from horse owners whose opinion you trust.
Not all dentists are the same...some suck, some are good and some are great!
You want the great one!!

Personally, I don't like power-floats because of the sedation needed by most horses and the amount of tooth that can be ground away in a second. Forget the damage to the oral cavity if the horse should move suddenly...sedation or not!
It may be "old-fashioned" but my horses teeth when finished by "hand-method" are done just as well as those from the power-float. No sedation needed as my horses stand quietly and actually enjoy their teeth worked on.....
Aside from the fact that thank-you no, you will not administer sedation drugs to my horse unless you are licensed to do so, having on-hand the drugs to take care of a bad reaction that can happen and sadly does sometimes...
That means you will have a medical degree in veterinary medicine associated with your name. You may indeed be a vet, and have done specialty training in dental work as so many think vets can't do mouth work very well unless it is all they do....
I happen to have a very good vet who does my horses teeth...he has fixed several screw-ups of those "equine dentists"...

Do have someone out to look at your horse.... and soon.
5 months is a long time to have a issue and no relief from it nor the ability to eat correctly without noise/pain happening.

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Above posters make some valid points....

To me, it sounds like your horse may have a locking jaw on one side.
Clicking sounds is the joint popping as it tries to open and close, possibly.
If it is this the jaw needs to be professionally manipulated to rehab that joint as by this time the muscles of the "locked" side have atrophied some.
It is painful for the horse, therefore they avoid the pain by not eating much and may lose weight.
From November till now is a long time for the horse to not be feeling well and a second opinion/look-see should be scheduled ASAP so instead of the horse failing it thrives....

Depending upon how much you trust your vet that did the float would dictate to me whether I called and asked them back for a re-exam or not....
If you choose a equine dentist...get some recommendations from horse owners whose opinion you trust.
Not all dentists are the same...some suck, some are good and some are great!
You want the great one!!

Personally, I don't like power-floats because of the sedation needed by most horses and the amount of tooth that can be ground away in a second. Forget the damage to the oral cavity if the horse should move suddenly...sedation or not!
It may be "old-fashioned" but my horses teeth when finished by "hand-method" are done just as well as those from the power-float. No sedation needed as my horses stand quietly and actually enjoy their teeth worked on.....
Aside from the fact that thank-you no, you will not administer sedation drugs to my horse unless you are licensed to do so, having on-hand the drugs to take care of a bad reaction that can happen and sadly does sometimes...
That means you will have a medical degree in veterinary medicine associated with your name. You may indeed be a vet, and have done specialty training in dental work as so many think vets can't do mouth work very well unless it is all they do....
I happen to have a very good vet who does my horses teeth...he has fixed several screw-ups of those "equine dentists"...

Do have someone out to look at your horse.... and soon.
5 months is a long time to have a issue and no relief from it nor the ability to eat correctly without noise/pain happening.

jmo..
Do horses get TMJ? I can assure you it is very painful, even if only for a second!
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Do horses get TMJ? I can assure you it is very painful, even if only for a second!
Yes, or something like it. Usually from the mouth held open too wide for too long.
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The vet I have has a great reputation. I may try calling her on Monday to see what she thinks. I'm not sure if she has digital x rays but will ask.
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