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post #1 of 17 Old 09-18-2020, 05:20 AM Thread Starter
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So I was looking at a website that sells ottb's, let me add I am not buying right now I can barely afford the 1 I have, only window shopping and dreaming😅. Anyway I saw a grey so had to click so I opened the gallery of pics of her and noticed her back hooves are extremely short. She did just race 10 days ago but even when I worked at the track horses fresh off the track never had their hooves this short. She is 3yo and 16.1 hh (not sure if that matters) but I'm curious why they would be cut so short? The front ones aren't as short, and I looked through a bunch of pics of her and they are all like this so its not just the angle or something.
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I'm curious why they would be cut so short? The front ones aren't as short, and I looked through a bunch of pics of her and they are all like this so its not just the angle or something.
I am not at all familiar with the criteria for a horse that is racing but this horse (and the others you mention) probably got trimmed and shod for private resale. My guess would be because somebody knows how to trim.

It is possible, however, they might be a tad too short but not much. If she continually moves fluid and sound, they arenít too short:)

She actually looks like she has decent hooves. Trying to trim her correctly (short, well balanced hooves) is a good way to keep them decent:)
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I'm no expert, but I think her hoof length is great. I've heard that racing thoroughbreds often have their toes left too long intentionally, although I can't remember now what the reason was. She has really nice feet from what I can see. IMO.

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post #4 of 17 Old 09-18-2020, 09:09 AM
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Agree. Those feet look pretty good. A lot of people are so used to seeing horses with long toes and underrun heels they assume that is correct.
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Those hind feet are some of the best I've ever seen on an OTTB to be perfectly frank with you. The vast majority of racehorses are shod far too long in the toe.
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If I were interested in this horse, I would ask for a trotting video, and some photos that show her hind legs more clearly. Her hind leg looks extremely straight through the hock, and her rear patterns are a strange angle, which I suspect is DSLD. It could be strange photo angle and shadows, though.
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Racehorses commonly have long toes and low heels for a variety of reasons when they are running which can create serious issue and have the hoof morph into something it was not originally.

The horse you pictured to me is going through some remodeling of her back hooves ...
Now rehabbed to a riding horse, her feet are cared for differently, hopefully undoing some of the changes, the damages that racehorses face with their tootsies..
Her hooves actually are a work in progress cause look closely at both feet she is yet needing some attention and diligent work done, her feet do appear healthy though.
Sadly, she does appear to have some leg issues occurring at such a young age ... in several areas too.

Always running one direction for workouts or races, having feet actually trimmed at 4 week intervals but often shod in-between those times...having your hooves put to a desired angle to better break-over and hit the ground at a dead run does cause lasting effects on some horses...
There are many studies done about the changes internally seen on racehorses feet and legs...radiographs taken of so many animals...you can't argue with "film" proof positive.

Being this one is appearing so very straight behind is additional stresses to the animal...
I'm wondering if the feet aren't intentionally trimmed shorter in the toe so the animal clears the ground with the toe and not stab so hard on each footfall behind.
Being that straight behind is going to effect movement..
She is a beautiful horse, wish she had a bit nicer hind-end...
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Racehorses commonly have long toes and low heels for a variety of reasons when they are running which can create serious issue and have the hoof morph into something it was not originally.

The horse you pictured to me is going through some remodeling of her back hooves ...
Now rehabbed to a riding horse, her feet are cared for differently, hopefully undoing some of the changes, the damages that racehorses face with their tootsies..
Her hooves actually are a work in progress cause look closely at both feet she is yet needing some attention and diligent work done, her feet do appear healthy though.
Sadly, she does appear to have some leg issues occurring at such a young age ... in several areas too.

Always running one direction for workouts or races, having feet actually trimmed at 4 week intervals but often shod in-between those times...having your hooves put to a desired angle to better break-over and hit the ground at a dead run does cause lasting effects on some horses...
There are many studies done about the changes internally seen on racehorses feet and legs...radiographs taken of so many animals...you can't argue with "film" proof positive.

Being this one is appearing so very straight behind is additional stresses to the animal...
I'm wondering if the feet aren't intentionally trimmed shorter in the toe so the animal clears the ground with the toe and not stab so hard on each footfall behind.
Being that straight behind is going to effect movement..
She is a beautiful horse, wish she had a bit nicer hind-end...
Her looks alone make her worth a fortune in the English show world!
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Thank you for the explanation! I could tell something was off. A lot of times I see it but can't put my finger on the problem. Also yes I have seen greys on this site go in under an hour!

And everyone else I guess I am just used to longer hooves these just look so funky to me.
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I do see some issue with her hinds, but agree that 'too short' is not necessarily(don't think you can say for sure from this one pic) one of them. And also agree that short(assuming not too short) is a nice change from the too long norm.

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The horse you pictured to me is going through some remodeling of her back hooves ...
Now rehabbed to a riding horse,
I presume you mean they will 'remodel' if she is 'rehabbed' & cared for differently. I agree that if this youngster were 'rehabbed' - gotten out of shoes, trimmed well, on a healthy diet(as opposed to the 'high octane fuel' she's been on), etc, she will have a very good chance to grow healthy, strong feet, especially since they're in that(pretty reasonable, considering) shape after racing.

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Always running one direction for workouts or races, having feet actually trimmed at 4 week intervals but often shod in-between those times...having your hooves put to a desired angle to better break-over and hit the ground at a dead run does cause lasting effects on some horses...
A question, about what you said above Karen - I'm familiar with racehorses over here, but is it common over there for them to be trimmed & shod that frequently? And done so with correct 'breakover'? I wish that were the case here - well, the trimmed 4-weekly & with good angles & breakover anyway. I don't believe shoeing that frequently(why is that done 2 weekly??) would be helpful.

Oh & yes, body issues from running in one direction, babies made to do so much at a 'dead run' as you put it(not to mention most standing around in stables/pens for the rest of their life), I'd actually say go so far as to say it has lasting effects on ALL horses. But a 3yo at least, hasn't raced all that much & is still far from mature, so, with good bodywork & care now, some of those issues at least might be 'undone' and 'corrected'.

OP I too don't like the look of her hind end - tho it might be that her 'straight' legs are a reflection of the pelvis angle & one thing that may be 'rehabable' with a good chiropractic vet or such.
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