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post #1 of 30 Old 09-29-2019, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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Best Food for Raising a Show Stallion?

My 2 year old stallion is very slim, other horses of his breed the same age have much more fat and muscle mass. I may want to show him next year when he turns 3 so I wanted to get him some muscle and fat. Currently his diet consists of free feeding on round bales. I want something cheap yet effective so I thought the best way would be to make my own feed rather than buying expensive bags of something at the store. He weighs around 1500 lbs currently.

After doing some research here is the recipe I came up with.
2 cups canola oil
5 lbs rice bran
5 lbs beet pulp
5 lbs oats
I would give that to him once per day and he still would have constant access to his round bale. I would also get a salt lick for him so I hope that would cover all his nutritional needs.

I am looking for any advice as I am completely new to this, I just want him to grow as large as possible and be as healthy as possible.
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He needs a balanced diet, with proper attention paid to the amino acid profile (the building blocks for his muscles) and mineral balance for GROWING horses. Have those round bales tested, put the info in FeedXL, and go from there.

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My 2 year old stallion is very slim, other horses of his breed the same age have much more fat and muscle mass. I may want to show him next year when he turns 3 so I wanted to get him some muscle and fat. Currently his diet consists of free feeding on round bales. I want something cheap yet effective so I thought the best way would be to make my own feed rather than buying expensive bags of something at the store. He weighs around 1500 lbs currently.

After doing some research here is the recipe I came up with.
2 cups canola oil
5 lbs rice bran
5 lbs beet pulp
5 lbs oats
I would give that to him once per day and he still would have constant access to his round bale. I would also get a salt lick for him so I hope that would cover all his nutritional needs.

I am looking for any advice as I am completely new to this, I just want him to grow as large as possible and be as healthy as possible.

"Cheap and effective" is not going to get you "as large asossible and be as healthy asossible". Yet you expect raise this horse into a show horse. This is t even a formula to raise him into a good working horse -- sorry.

What you are feeding is very much lacking in proper minerals vitamins, and amino acids as @greentree said.

Feed XL is a good place to start but it costs money, which seems to be something you aren't willing to spend.

Go to the feed store and buy a feed (NOT sweet feed) that is gears toward very young horses. Stay away from Tractor Supply's DuMor brand too

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post #4 of 30 Old 09-29-2019, 01:04 PM
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Generally I have always been told a low sugar/ starch diet is what is appropriate for horses and that is what I feed both of my boys (geldings however) but it's best to do research on what is available in your area.
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2 years old and 1500 pounds? What breed is this horse? I suspect some type of draft? What is his height? Different breeds will have different standards. I don't want to see a heavy amount of fat on my horses. I want them lean through the growing years and fit. I don't want them over muscled as putting that amount of muscle on that young increases the chances of break down later as to get that amount you are pushing feed to get growth putting strain on developing joints.
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If you are raising a show stallion, this is a big money and time commitment. Do not consult public forums, you don't know what is right and wrong advice. Call a horse nutritionist if you don't have the experience to feed a stallion properly. If you are looking for cheap alternatives, you have no business keeping a stallion. These are money commitments, raising a show stallion won't make you any money it will make you broke. If you don't have enough money to begin with, you are going to have way less after this.

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If you are raising a show stallion, this is a big money and time commitment.

Do not consult public forums, you don't know what is right and wrong advice. Call a horse nutritionist if you don't have the experience to feed a stallion properly.

If you are looking for cheap alternatives, you have no business keeping a stallion. These are money commitments, raising a show stallion won't make you any money it will make you broke. If you don't have enough money to begin with, you are going to have way less after this.
I'm glad you said that

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After doing some research here is the recipe I came up with.
2 cups canola oil
5 lbs rice bran
5 lbs beet pulp
5 lbs oats
I would give that to him once per day and he still would have constant access to his round bale. I would also get a salt lick for him so I hope that would cover all his nutritional needs.

I am looking for any advice as I am completely new to this, I just want him to grow as large as possible and be as healthy as possible.
Hi, firstly, from the point of view of his health & soundness, you DON'T want him 'growing as large as possible' or carrying a lot of fat. Tho from a showing point of view, they tend to like fat horses... While at 2yo he may just be going through a 'lanky phase' & not lacking in calories or such, he may well need extra fat & good protein may also be lacking, for him to build muscle. Exercise is also important for muscle development.

Nutritional balance is important for growth, as well as other aspects of health. He is not likely to be getting adequate nutrients from hay alone, esp essential fatty acids, omega 3 etc. He will not get those from a salt lick, and in fact horses dont tend to get much from salt licks, so id look at better nutrition. Does depend on what's in the hay etc, so first doing a diet analysis before working out what supps may be best.

As to ingredients of supplementary feeds, firstly, horses need to be fed certain ingredients little & often to get much out of them, particularly high fat & other rich or difficult to digest feed, so you need to feed at least 2 small meals daily, preferably more, esp if fat/oil and high starch ingredients like grain fed.

Fat/oil can be good, but it's not readily digested by horses. Should be built up very gradually over a few weeks, feeding little & often, so the horse can develop & maintain the enzymes necessary to digest it. Canola is also high in omega 6 oils, which is more often well supplied elsewhere, while omega 3 is generally in short supply. So I'd consider adding stabilized linseed/flax or such rather than canola or sunflower.

Rice bran & beet pulp are good, relatively high calorie, easily digested ingreds. Adding some copra &/or lucerne/alfalfa are also good options. Horses have small stomachs so along with consideration of little & often being important, 15lbs plus per feed is quite a bit more than ideal.

Oats are lowest starch, easiest to digest of cereal grains, but still high starch & not good in large quantities, infrequent meals or for some horses, so while that may well be best option, I'd see how he went without them, considering other options before grain.

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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He is a Percheron, He' about 17 hands right now he will only grow a few more inches but he still has tons of weight to put on. I know of a few of his half brothers and they were all around 1800lbs around his age, he actually may be around 1400, I have never weighed him so it is just a guess. Winters are also harsh here so I wanted to make sure he has enough fat and nutrients during the winter. I am open to buying something in the store as long as it's not too expensive.
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Being a perch/heavy breed, I'd actually expect him to be lanky at that age, as they tend to grow up before they start really growing out. Perhaps his half brothers and others you've seen have been over developed, who knows.

You do tend to get what you pay for, and 'cheap' may well be false economy. As an eg. 'Ration balancers' - high nutritional density mix designed as generic supplements - can be cheap, you have to feed lbs of it daily, they're not well balanced, use cheaper types of minerals which aren't well utilized.... or there are expensive types, but with far more bioavailable nutrients & you need to feed far less. So package price may be vastly more but value is actually better.

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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