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post #21 of 30 Old 10-14-2019, 04:50 AM
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Fit racehorses get around 15 lb - 20 lb of hard feed a day. This is divided into four feedings so they are getting maximum of 5 lb per feed this is dampened so probably around 6lb. Just because he is bigger doesn't mean he can take a big feed in one session.

He does look very narrow across the chest. Are you sure he is stallion material?
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I agree with @Foxhunter . From the photos (which can be deceptive of course) he is narrow in front, lacks angulation behind, and has a very steep rump. Those are due to bone structure and no feeding regimen will change them. Only colts which are truly superior in their breed should be kept whole. Something to think about.

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He looks good for his age. If anything the stallions I've seen that are that age winning in the ring and going for high dollars at auction are perhaps fitter but not fatter. There is no rib showing so that says adequate fat already. As said pictures can be deceiving but in those he does look narrow and his croup is steep. Those would be faults in the ring.


As to feeding for the ring I raised and showed my share of Belgians to Championships, They got there on good quality pasture and good quality hay - fed a mix of bermuda and alfalfa, The only "hard" feed was the appropriate amount of oats to balance out the minerals between the oat and alfalfa. They were sleek, fit from ground work and depending on the age ground driving to light driving. They weren't getting huge amounts. They were handled and "fitted" from the time they were halter broke as they were shown in hand but they weren't over worked either. Just enough to have them familiar with what we were asking of them and able to perform on cue.



In order to get the benefit of the TCG you would need to feed probably 10 or more pounds a day for his size. I think you would be better served by a good ration balancer to meet his vit and mineral need as you aren't meeting them form that small amount of TCG.



By 18 months a draft has over 90% of his growth done. All that is left is putting on muscle and in drafts that filling out comes late 4 to 5 some keep bulking through 7 or 8. At 2.5 he shouldn't be on any growth formula feed wise. That is more for weanlings and yearlings. You're asking for trouble down the road. They aren't going to be all muscly at this stage. That doesn't happen until 5 or older. You don't want to short him any vits or mins and you do want good quality protein going in but you don't want him overloaded.
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Macromineral Recommendation Calcium 21g Chlorine 80 mg per kg body weight Magnesium 15 mg/kg body weight Phosphorus 14 g/day Potassium 0.05 g/kg body weight Sodium 0.02 g/kg body weight
Sulfur 0.15% of dry matter intake



Micromineral Recommendation Cobalt 0.05 mg/kg dry matter intake Copper 10 mg/kg dry matter intake Iodine 0.007 mg/kg body weight Iron 40 mg/kg dry matter intake Manganese 40 mg/kg dry matter intake Selenium 0.1 mg/kg feed intake Zinc 40 mg/kg dry matter intake


Keep in mind balance is important too. Calcium (1 -2.5) to Phosphorous (1) is important and Zinc to Copper. If you are in an area where iron overload is an issue then you need to compensate for that but first test your horse and then use something like FeedXL (subscription service) for your feeds.

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Thank you for your advice everyone! I bought him when he was around 17 months old and he has grown from 16.0 hands to 17.0 and a few hundred pounds since. His parents were both 17.3 so we can expect him to finish around 17.2 at least, in that time of growing another 2-3 inches he will also get wider but it just remains to be seen how much. I knew when I bought him he wouldn't have the conformation I was looking for 'narrow neck and shoulders', but the reason he is special is his coat color. Only about 10 Percheron stallions exist with that color, of so only about 5 are publicly offered for breeding. Something I really want to do is get him some better hay as a start. The Triple Crown says on the back it is also for breeding stallions but I'm sure there is something better for a horse of his age. I'm not sure I am ready to start mixing him out minerals though I wouldn't want to mess up and hurt him more than help him! This is all very complicating for a beginner. When I do nail down a solid feed for him it will be very interesting to see how it affects him if at all. If I remember I will post pictures 6 months from now when he turns 3.

Here is when I got him as a yearling at about 17 months old. He's made a lot of progress since then!
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"A good horse is never a bad color". A tried and true adage, and the reverse is just as true. A poor horse is never a good color. I know plenty of people don't agree though.
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Roan is one that in the vast majority a heterozygous state so only a 50% chance of passing. If I remember my friend Beck correctly there is only one Homozygous roan and I don't remember if it was a mare or gelding. Test him to see if he is hetero or homo. Breed him to a black mare and there is only a 50% chance of a roan baby. Bred to a roan mare she has a 50% chance of passing and you have a much better chance of getting a roan as long as RnRn is not lethal. I know at one point it was questioned. I agree with Avna. But will say if you are going to keep him them you will need to breed to superior mares and even that brings no guarantee. I have bred a couple young each to a select mare so I had a baby on the ground while they were in the ring or working. By the time that baby was getting close to 3 I had a good idea if I wanted to keep them uncut based on talent, ability and personality. If the baby was a nice one then they were bred to a couple more mares if not then I thought long and hard and got advice on a different line or cross that could work better than what I had.





At this point he is not a breeding stallion. He is basically a young teenager so feed him for where he is at. Your ration balancers will provide what you need. Purina Free Balance is a granular. I'm using Moorman's GroStrong another granular and liking what it is doing. You don't have to micro manage the minerals and mix them yourself. Too many products out there that do the mixing for you.
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There are much nicer roan stallions out there; your gelding is cute, but not stallion material. As others have said, he's got some pretty obvious conformational flaws that shouldn't be passed on. As said above, you would need to breed him to truly superior mares, and owners of superior mares are not going to be lined up for him color or not, which means you'll need to buy superior mares, and those are NOT cheap. I'm concerned with his pasterns, too-- they're very weak for a young horse. Geld him and enjoy him. Feed him a balanced commercial feed and leave the 'mixing' to the pros, and good hay.
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We have to remember he is still closer to being 2 years old than 3. He will continue to grow until he is 5+ as most drafts do. All the other stallions his age offered for breeding are around 2 years older than him and have been pushed on feed since they were yearlings it is hard to compare their conformation with him at this point. I am still optimistic his entire front end is going to raise another few inches and fill out. His rear is already at about 17.3 hands and his wither is expected to get to the same. I assume his neck will also fill out and he will get a more cresty shape. I have been told by the breeder to get him working and he will fill out in the chest and other areas. Right now he is only halter broke so he receives no exercise. He may not be the best stallion out there but there are certainly people who would be interested in him for their breeding programs regardless. I have already had requests for him. Like I said there is only around 5 publicly known in all of America. I have looked into getting another blue roan stallion but there is none for sale at the moment and they aren't cheap when they do pop up. So for now he's my only option.
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Here are a few more pictures of him taken in the summer. I think he looks a lot better in these pictures and much more like he does in person. The photos of him I posted a few days ago didn't really capture him well, I guess he's not very photogenic. It also shows how beautiful his coat looks when he doesn't have his winter coat.

I do now notice the pasterns in the front look a bit long. Is this ever going to be an issue that causes pain or anything? Is there any other conformation flaws you guys see in him? It would be nice to know what to look for when selecting a mare for him or a stallion in the future. Thank you!






Here he is next to his friend. A 17.3 hand draft rescue. We are unsure his breed but I think he may be a Shire mixed with a Percheron, he is a big boy.
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