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post #1 of 9 Old 03-26-2017, 10:55 AM Thread Starter
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Bought the wrong feed!

Ok so I usually almost always buy the same feed at the feed store. I was in a rush and got the feed sitting next to the one I usually get. They store all the cattle feed and Horse feed right next to one another. If you could see how the feed store is set up, you'd understand.

Anywho, I bought cattle feed. It says "cattle grain mix". Nowhere on the label does it state medication in the feed, I've looked and compared to what I normally buy. In fact, it's all just grains and the same pellets used in the horse feed. In all it just looks like a lower quality feed than my normal Horse feed. They mill everything on site.

Question is can I mix this with the horses current feed and just feed it through?

Thankfully, I only have 3 bags of it. If anything I'll just feed it to my chickens. They eat anything.

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Personally, I wouldn't. I would take it back and get the correct feed.

I can't tell you how many times I've bought feed and then after inspecting what they threw into the back of my truck, IT WAS THE WRONG THING!!! I've even come home with it because I didn't look before I left and brought it back. I have not come across any feed store that wouldn't correct the mistake. I just wouldn't take the chance with it. As you know, some substances that they put in cow feed can kill a horse and even though it is not listed on the ingredients, they still could have milled it on the same machinery as the medicated stuff. Not a big deal if it's just more cow feed but a very big deal if it's fed to horses.
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Ok so I usually almost always buy the same feed at the feed store. I was in a rush and got the feed sitting next to the one I usually get. They store all the cattle feed and Horse feed right next to one another. If you could see how the feed store is set up, you'd understand.

Anywho, I bought cattle feed. It says "cattle grain mix". Nowhere on the label does it state medication in the feed, I've looked and compared to what I normally buy. In fact, it's all just grains and the same pellets used in the horse feed. In all it just looks like a lower quality feed than my normal Horse feed. They mill everything on site.

Question is can I mix this with the horses current feed and just feed it through?

Thankfully, I only have 3 bags of it. If anything I'll just feed it to my chickens. They eat anything.

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Return it. It most likely has Rumensin/Monensin in it and that can kill a horse. I wouldn't feed it to my chickens either.

From the FDA site: " Do not allow horses or other equines access to feeds containing monensin. Ingestion of monensin by horses has been fatal. Monensin medicated cattle and goat feeds are safe for use in cattle and goats only. Consumption by unapproved species may result in toxic reactions. "
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Personally, I wouldn't. I would take it back and get the correct feed.

I can't tell you how many times I've bought feed and then after inspecting what they threw into the back of my truck, IT WAS THE WRONG THING!!! I've even come home with it because I didn't look before I left and brought it back. I have not come across any feed store that wouldn't correct the mistake. I just wouldn't take the chance with it. As you know, some substances that they put in cow feed can kill a horse and even though it is not listed on the ingredients, they still could have milled it on the same machinery as the medicated stuff. Not a big deal if it's just more cow feed but a very big deal if it's fed to horses.
That was the first thing I checked for was if it was medicated. The feed label only lists out 5 whole grains, molasses, and the pellets. Which are the same pellets as they put in their horse feed. All the feed store's feeds are bagged in the same bags. So it's an easy mistake.

I'll call tomm and see if I can exchange.

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Find out what the "medicated" is. Monensin cattle feed should never be milled with the same equipment horse feed is milled because it is nearly impossible to clean it and get every trace of the Monensin out. I am all about the small local mills but if they are in fact milling both in the same equipment, I would consider changing my feed source as they just don't have the safety measures in place to prevent accidental cross contamination.
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Find out what the "medicated" is. Monensin cattle feed should never be milled with the same equipment horse feed is milled because it is nearly impossible to clean it and get every trace of the Monensin out. I am all about the small local mills but if they are in fact milling both in the same equipment, I would consider changing my feed source as they just don't have the safety measures in place to prevent accidental cross contamination.
I agree with this. I would also just take it back and get what you normally do. I would also investigate how they mill the different feeds or just change sources altogether.
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Find out what the "medicated" is. Monensin cattle feed should never be milled with the same equipment horse feed is milled because it is nearly impossible to clean it and get every trace of the Monensin out. I am all about the small local mills but if they are in fact milling both in the same equipment, I would consider changing my feed source as they just don't have the safety measures in place to prevent accidental cross contamination.
I know that. The fact that it lists out no medications on the tag at all, that it's produced in the same mill as Horse feed, and that their horse feed has never made my horse's even sneeze, is enough for me to assume that it's not medicated feed. This mill does sell their own in house made chick feed that is unmedicated. If you want medicated chick feed you have to buy a prepared mix from another company that they sell.

If it's not medicated cattle feed, which I'm only assuming it's not since there is nothing to tell me it is, I'll feed it to the chickens rather than exchange. I'm going to call tomm and find out.

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I would not trust the fact that just because it says no Ionophores have been added, that is the case
In fact, I would not even buy horse feed where cattle feed is also milled.
Carry over can result, and that mill would be way less inclined to flush everything, if medicated cattle feed was milled prior to hrose feed, then if non medicated cattle feed followed
Most of the Monensin poisoning occurring from purchased horse feed, was not due to those horse feeds being labelled incorrectly, but because of carry over
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If you know for a fact that they don't make medicated cattle feed at that mill what so ever, then no worries. If they do then that un-medicated bag of cattle feed could have been milled right after medicated stuff was and no reason to worry either, IF it's fed to cattle. I think it would be so much easier to just exchange it for what you want and usually use.

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