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post #1 of 11 Old 04-18-2020, 09:40 AM Thread Starter
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Complete Vitamin/Mineral Supplements (Must ship to Canada)

Given that the borders are shut down due to COVID-19, I am now unable to get my horse's regular supplement, which I normally get in the U.S. I should have enough left for at least 2-2.5 months, BUT I want to be prepared in case I do run out and can't get more.

I am looking for something similar to Horsetech's vit/min supplement: https://horsetech.com/equine-supplem...gh-point-grass

Supplements/ pellets that I do not want are any with Iron in them or high NSC, as my horse is borderline IR. I have tried Mad Barn's amino trace before and my horses were both not fans of it. I also see that California Trace no longer ships to Canada, as that would have been my go to I do not know of any other Canadian vitamin/ mineral supplements with no/ low iron in them.
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Mad Barn has a few other mixes that my horses love. They weren't big fans of the Amino Trace either, but they'll eat the other ones. I usually get a custom blend created by my trimmer so that's an option too - just figure out what's in the Horsetech and send them the ingredients with quantities. They can mix anything for you and provide excellent service.

Before I started using my trimmer's custom mix from Mad Barn, U used Zinpro's Availa-4 as a base mineral and added to that (probiotics, selenium, etc.).

Another option might be Bioequine's digestive supplement. They're in Alberta, and I had very good success with the product. They also gave me great service. It is mean to be a complete supplement.
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Thank you very much!

It looks like custom from MadBarn might be my only option right now, if I want something similar. Amino trace is the only one with low Iron in it. My horses really disliked the Amino Trace, unfortunately. They wouldn't even touch it.

I looked at Bioequine's digestive supplement and I think it also doesn't have enough Copper in it for what my horse needs (= or > 100mg), preferably greater.

If you don't mind me asking, what was the price comparison between Amino Trace and the custom mix
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Thank you very much!

It looks like custom from MadBarn might be my only option right now, if I want something similar. Amino trace is the only one with low Iron in it. My horses really disliked the Amino Trace, unfortunately. They wouldn't even touch it.

I looked at Bioequine's digestive supplement and I think it also doesn't have enough Copper in it for what my horse needs (= or > 100mg), preferably greater.

If you don't mind me asking, what was the price comparison between Amino Trace and the custom mix
The custom mix I have been using is much cheaper than Amino Trace. But some of the ratios should be adjusted to be honest. I asked my trimmer to see if she could come up with a slightly better custom mix. I am due to put in an order soon so I will need to make a decision sooner rather than later. I'll let you know what we come up with.

I do like the Bioequine, but I agree, it's not quite complete for my horses either. What I like about Mad Barn is that they'll completely customize the mix for you and it's not terribly expensive.
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This is the custom mix I have used for two of my horses (the other was on Amino Trace): 150mg Copper, 400 Zinc, 20 mg Biotin, 2 mg Selenium, 10,000Iu Vit A and 1000 IU Vit E (they will know it as the Rubinger mix). I've been adding a few more things to it such as more Vit. E. This is enough for 250 days and is priced at $134.65 for 5 kg. I feel like it could just be tweaked a little for an even better version.
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Ok, so my trimmer got back to me and says she's made a mix called the Rubinger Extra that has more copper and zinc in it. It's about $225 for 240 days worth (5 kg). These do not have the good digestive stuff that's in the Bioequine though. You could try feeding Bioequine and requesting extra copper and whatever else you need from Mad Barn. I'm pretty sure they do single mineral orders. But then you have to mix it in yourself which is a pain.
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That is so helpful! Thank You! I'll definitely be looking into it. Hopefully, quarantine will not last that long, but it is always nice knowing I have a backup plan for feed. Even so, I didn't know that Mad Barn did custom supplements, so that is very nice to learn.
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Well, I've been emailing mad barn back and forth and learned something, so I thought I'd update in case this is new information to others as well. I knew that the U.S. and Canada were different in terms of what is listed on the labels. Since in Canada, we are regulated at a Federal level and are required to include iron levels in all labels. Apparently, this is able to be bypassed in some States and they do not have to list the amount of Iron in the nutrient analysis, but any that use dicalcium phosphate will be in excess of 2,000 mg/kg of iron. Very interesting to me, as I've often wondered why every supplement in Canada I've looked at lists Iron and there are several in the States that don't.
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Well, I've been emailing mad barn back and forth and learned something, so I thought I'd update in case this is new information to others as well. I knew that the U.S. and Canada were different in terms of what is listed on the labels. Since in Canada, we are regulated at a Federal level and are required to include iron levels in all labels. Apparently, this is able to be bypassed in some States and they do not have to list the amount of Iron in the nutrient analysis, but any that use dicalcium phosphate will be in excess of 2,000 mg/kg of iron. Very interesting to me, as I've often wondered why every supplement in Canada I've looked at lists Iron and there are several in the States that don't.
Good to know! I had a great exchange with the folks at Bioequine about iron too (they're based in Alberta). They took iron out of every one of their supplements after research showed that most places in North America have excess iron. I think we are only now beginning to understand that all this iron can be a problem for horses.
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That's really nice to hear about Bioequine! I hope more Canadian supplements will follow suit with the research on excess Iron. After discovering the differing regulations in Canada from the U.S. , I now understand why so many products have Iron always listed in them, but I still find many products to have so much iron in them and not nearly enough copper. If there is, the product is usually $$$. It would be great to have a wider selection here.
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