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post #1 of 32 Old 04-19-2017, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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I'm sure this has been posted alot and I'm reading through all the posts also.

But I have been feeding my OTTBs U7 and Purina Ultium Competition

I'm just not seeing what I hoped to see. Their coats are healthy but not amazing. They are in decent weight but could use a small amount more. Mainly I'm not happy with the lack of weight gain and muscle.
The newest is still super racing fit and I know with work he will loose some muscle and gain others. The other is on stall rest to fix his feet (pulled shoes letting feet grow before retacking them on) so I know he won't build muscle by sitting there.

I'm looking for something that is higher in protein to aid in the muscle building and fat to aid in the weight gain. But not high in sugars.
I'm thinking of mixing my own feed with what's available to me via tractor supply/ southern states stores.

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How much feed are you feeding and how big and what age are your horses?

So...
You're not going to find many feeds higher in fat than Ultium...
Add a 11.7% protein is not terrible either and adequate amount to build muscle for most horses.

Protein...well, it isn't only protein that makes muscle tissue..you need the corresponding ingredients, building blocks in proper amounts.
Do your research of what building blocks are needed and in the right ratios. Figure out what you might be missing and need and then add that to the diet.

I have had great success adding the bloom to my rescue with a product from Pennwoods called Body Builder 4000.
My horse is not tattooed but sure looks a older Thoroughbred.
Has made a marked difference in his appearance.
At 26% protein and 40% fat I don't think there is anything like it on the market.
The supporting ingredients are also there. Concentrated small amount needing fed daily...
https://pennwoods.com/body-builder-4000/

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How much feed are you feeding and how big and what age are your horses?

So...
You're not going to find many feeds higher in fat than Ultium...
Add a 11.7% protein is not terrible either and adequate amount to build muscle for most horses.

Protein...well, it isn't only protein that makes muscle tissue..you need the corresponding ingredients, building blocks in proper amounts.
Do your research of what building blocks are needed and in the right ratios. Figure out what you might be missing and need and then add that to the diet.

I have had great success adding the bloom to my rescue with a product from Pennwoods called Body Builder 4000.
My horse is not tattooed but sure looks a older Thoroughbred.
Has made a marked difference in his appearance.
At 26% protein and 40% fat I don't think there is anything like it on the market.
The supporting ingredients are also there. Concentrated small amount needing fed daily...
https://pennwoods.com/body-builder-4000/

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I know it's not just protein but many other factors too, just would like to start there with higher fat/protein.

I choose the ultium because it was recommended and had good percentage but I am not seeing much difference then an average feed ..

I'll look into it :)

My hoses are 5 (15.1 hh) and 6 (16 hh) both came off track this year.

I'll have to weigh how much my scoops are today.

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I've also used Ultium extensively and have been very impressed with it from backyard puffs to top level show mounts.

I would also be looking for a supplement as opposed to a feed change.

If you do want to change feeds there are other options but unlikely you will find something better than Ultium that still meets your criteria.
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And just remember that a feed is just a feed at the end of the day. You have 2 young recent OTTBs one in racing shape and one on stall rest. No feed alone will make changes without other factors. To be specific I have also used Ultium on plenty of TBs :) Mixing your own seems like a pain. Either buy a different feed or another feed and measure it out like you typically would.
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And just remember that a feed is just a feed at the end of the day. You have 2 young recent OTTBs one in racing shape and one on stall rest. No feed alone will make changes without other factors.
Yes I know :)

Just trying to find them the best option

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^Of course I'm just thinking these may not be the best circumstances to make a decision in, though of course you can always change back.. how long have you had them/have they been on this feed?
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^Of course I'm just thinking these may not be the best circumstances to make a decision in, though of course you can always change back.. how long have you had them/have they been on this feed?
The other one since January and has been in regular work up until last week.
The largest one I got last week (so I know there's not much to see with him)

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Yeah that's not a lot of time at all. And the first one was also in racing condition when you got him? So he was probably JUST getting to seeing any benefits from his "let down" when he was put on stall rest. I'd personally just give it some more time but start with a supplement if you think you need more, you can always stop it.
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Yeah that's not a lot of time at all. And the first one was also in racing condition when you got him? So he was probably JUST getting to seeing any benefits from his "let down" when he was put on stall rest. I'd personally just give it some more time but start with a supplement if you think you need more, you can always stop it.
He was a bit more let down when I got him. He last raced November and stopped training in December. So had a whole month of just sitting an eating then came here.

But yes I just wanted to see if there were better options if not they will remain on the ultium
Thank you

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