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post #1 of 12 Old 07-10-2020, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
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Talking Feeding supplements and or Smartpaks, what do you feed?

What supplements do you feed or have fed and loved in the past and why!?


**DISCLAIMER**I can 100% respect that some of us don't or do believe in supplementing horses for one reason for another so this thread is by no means a place for anyone to tell another person they are not feeding their own horse correctly. We are all great advocates for our own horses and know what they need.

Out of plain curiosity I would love to hear hear what you either have had yours's horses on in the past or currently on and what what reason and why you like them?

I have had horses who didn't need supplements and horses who for sure benefited from supplements, that being said i do believe there are some horses out there that are in fact over supplemented bit that's a whole other thing!

Currently G is in the following:
Horse Guard Trifecta- I love this brand, the 4-1 ease, the pelleted form it comes in and feel its cost if very fair for all it offers. I can see a difference in my horses coat with it and they just seem to bloom on it (maybe I sound weird)

Remission (small dose) - I love this supplement from Ani Med as its another great all around supplement that covers a lot and covers things that the Trifecta does not. Also another bang for your buck! I had a past draft cross on this and she did great on it! I had my past young TB in this as well who had a lot of hoof issues and I feel it eased his discomfort a tiny bit?

Electrolytes- Helps add that apple flavor.....before I added this I found she was very suspicious of her grain. Now she not only gobbles it down but she drinks more water!

Smartpacks:
Smarthoof Ultra for her hooves we are rehabbing from sheer lack of any farrier work in the past year 6+ months prior to my ownership.
Smart Lamina- as she is a typical TB with very thin soles.

Both Smartpacks I am hoping in the future I can stop using or go adjust to less after she is more rehabbed through her feet. Two shoeing apt's in and I can see they are stronger and healthier looking (a lot has to do of course with the great farrier)

**ALLERGY MEDS**
I don't foresee having G on these meds year round but for now she is on 40 mg of Aller-tech daily (20mg each feeding) She is also on an Immune boost/vit C supplement and have seen a huge improvement! We are on our last bale of some dusty hay and I am transitioning her to 24/7 pasture turnout on a acre and half for the rest of the summer.

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post #2 of 12 Old 07-10-2020, 10:44 AM
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I do not buy SmartPaks - they are a waste of money, and also horrible for the environment with all that packaging BUT I love buying my supplements in bulk from SmartPak.


I used Magnesium 5,000 on my mare that I got from a rescue. She was uncatchable and untouchable, without trembling in a corner. Within 6 months of starting the magnesium, she was saddle-broke. I think it helped her take a breath, but also I put many hours in earning her trust to get to the point where we are at.

I used Redmock Rock Salt with my mare and gelding to increase water uptake. I knew my gelding was pretty good with bringing in water, but for the first year of owning my mare, I never saw her take a drink of water, so I wanted to make sure she was getting enough in. With it being winter when I bought her, I had the concern of colic in mind that can happen without enough hydration, so I added the salt. Now, I regularly see her drink, so the concern isn't there. I will probably start feeding the salt again once the temperatures drop once again.

I had my gelding on SmartFlex, I believe Ultra, when he was struggling with one of his stifles. I don't know if it did a thing. Eventually his stifle stopped acting up with pole work, and lots of long, hilly trail rides. I believe it was a muscling/aging problem and not so much a joint problem, so imo, waste of money.

I am looking to start buying supplements from HorseTech. They have a Vitamin E supplement, E-5000, that both of my horses could benefit from. I would also like to start an Amino Acid supplement, probably NutraAmino, to help with muscle generation with my senior gelding and my previously starved mare.

My farrier recommend that my mare gets put on California Trace, as one of her hooves currently has 3 vertical cracks, and it should help stimulate crazy hoof growth to help get those taken care of.
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Yes I agree with the environmental waste that Smartpak has, so unfortunate! I too buy in bulk and buy more than 1 months supply as makes my life so much easier!
I have heard great things about California Trace!

I have not heard of horsetech and will be going to check that out now! Thank you!

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I'm not big on supplements, but do feed some.

The main supplement I feed is King Feeds Ultra 20/20 - Low Sugar/Starch, No Alfalfa or Molasses, Anti-oxidants, Pre and Probiotics, Joint , Immune & Cardiovascular Support, Ulcer Prevention, Hair/Coat/Hoof Condition, Guaranteed Levels of Vitamins, Minerals & Essential Amino Acids. Good for the gut.

The other staple supplement I use is Perfect Balance powder electrolytes. It has no sugar and NO flavoring ... I hate that most supplements have some type of flavoring, LOL. Seems like competing flavors if you use more than one type of supplemen. It's a small dose, too. I mix it with the 20/20. I use paste electrolytes in the summer if competing. Brand doesn't really matter.

When my horse was in competition, I'd use Cosequin ASU on my vets recommendation.

Sometimes I'll use something with mainly biotin in it if their hoofs are looking a little wonky. And I'll use Omega Horseshine occasionally, too. I love the sheen it puts on horses.

I don't use any other supplements.
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I have to admit, I am one of those people that like to try things out

My mare is on 24/7 pasture (year round, no hay needed to maintain condition in winter) and maybe 1/4-1 lb senior feed a day. We use the senior as this is the feed our oldies eat and the younger ones get a token amount in their pan as a reward for coming to the barn when the breakfast/dinner bell rings

While I don't have any problem keeping weight on her this way (ahem, she is wearing a muzzle during the day), she just didn't bloom. So I added SmartVite Thrive vitamins and boom - the bloom occurred.

To (hopefully) repel bugs, I feed BugOff Ultra from February - November. I always wonder if it really helps, but I can see a definite difference when I forget to start it and the bugs are out.

She managed to get a ligament tear last year and I started feeding MSM to help with the inflammation during recovery. We have perpetually soggy ground and thrush is always lurking. Strangely enough while on MSM thrush was not even peeking up. Probably a coincidence, but I keep on feeding it to her.

Re hooves: she used to be very tender-footed after trims, pink lamina until I finally learned enough about hooves to see that this was a problem (farrier thought all is fine the way it was). Long, stretched toe, underrun heels, all the works. Added Remission, alongside with a new farrier that is slowly but surely gets the hooves to a healthier shape. No more tender-ness after trims and way less footy when ridden. To speed up the process I fed Bioflax and she grew hoof over winter like she normally does in spring. And she was super shiny without grooming too
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I don't do a tonne for supplements. In the winter I give HorseTech's VitE. I've done Nutramino in the past, but haven't reordered. Currently I've giving a hoof supplement my vet highly recommended. I'm not big on hoof supplements, but it has added Manganese and he's tested Mn deficient repeatedly, so it can't hurt.
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Only one I ever used was Farrier's Formula....honestly didnt notice a difference despite high recommendations and good reviews.
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I buy supplements from smartpak - I just buy the bucket instead of the daily packs. I do smart calm, show glow, a fly repellent (can't remember the brand) and smart flex.
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What supplements do you feed or have fed and loved in the past and why!?
I also like Trifecta because it adds Vitamin E, which most multivitamins do not add in a high enough quantity, and Selenium, which is helpful because we live in a very Selenium poor area. If I were to add probiotics, biotin and joint supplements to a multivitamin individually, it would cost me more than Trifecta, which combines these.

I give my OTTB SmartCalm Ultra, because it has Magnesium and also Thiamine. He has stifle issues, and I've seen improved muscle development and movement since putting him on the additional Magnesium.

Both of my horses are on Farrier's Formula Double Strength. I had the horses on a different hoof supplement, and didn't think I needed it when I switched to Trifecta for a multivitamin. But their hooves began chipping more easily, so now I have them back on it. I checked on FeedXL and with just Trifecta they weren't getting enough Copper. There is a lot of iron in the hay, which can make horses deficient in Zinc and Copper.

The "outlier" supplement I have my horses on is Uckele Tri Amino. I put my OTTB on Equinety (also an Amino Acid supplement), but someone on the forum pointed out that Equinety has great advertising but Tri Amino has higher doses of the essential AAs while also being much cheaper. After having my TB on the AA supplement, he started moving very well so I decided to put my mare on it also. We have a lot of rain here, and some of the proteins are washed out of the pasture and hay. Since my horses are looking better on the Amino Acids, I am assuming they were not getting some of the essential AAs in their feed.


In the past some supplements I have used and liked:

When I had an ulcer prone mare I had her on SmartDigest Ultra, which seemed to work very well. I also used EquiShure from Kentucky Equine when she had ulcers, to help heal any hindgut issues. It seemed to make her manure less acidic.

Before I was giving my horses Trifecta I had them on Smart and Simple Vitamin E plus Selenium, and my older mare was on Smartflex Senior for joints.

An FYI, a friend who has difficulty affording Trifecta gives regular Horse Guard vitamins every other day, which helps her with the cost.
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I also like Trifecta because it adds Vitamin E, which most multivitamins do not add in a high enough quantity, and Selenium, which is helpful because we live in a very Selenium poor area. If I were to add probiotics, biotin and joint supplements to a multivitamin individually, it would cost me more than Trifecta, which combines these.

I give my OTTB SmartCalm Ultra, because it has Magnesium and also Thiamine. He has stifle issues, and I've seen improved muscle development and movement since putting him on the additional Magnesium.

Both of my horses are on Farrier's Formula Double Strength. I had the horses on a different hoof supplement, and didn't think I needed it when I switched to Trifecta for a multivitamin. But their hooves began chipping more easily, so now I have them back on it. I checked on FeedXL and with just Trifecta they weren't getting enough Copper. There is a lot of iron in the hay, which can make horses deficient in Zinc and Copper.

The "outlier" supplement I have my horses on is Uckele Tri Amino. I put my OTTB on Equinety (also an Amino Acid supplement), but someone on the forum pointed out that Equinety has great advertising but Tri Amino has higher doses of the essential AAs while also being much cheaper. After having my TB on the AA supplement, he started moving very well so I decided to put my mare on it also. We have a lot of rain here, and some of the proteins are washed out of the pasture and hay. Since my horses are looking better on the Amino Acids, I am assuming they were not getting some of the essential AAs in their feed.


In the past some supplements I have used and liked:

When I had an ulcer prone mare I had her on SmartDigest Ultra, which seemed to work very well. I also used EquiShure from Kentucky Equine when she had ulcers, to help heal any hindgut issues. It seemed to make her manure less acidic.

Before I was giving my horses Trifecta I had them on Smart and Simple Vitamin E plus Selenium, and my older mare was on Smartflex Senior for joints.

An FYI, a friend who has difficulty affording Trifecta gives regular Horse Guard vitamins every other day, which helps her with the cost.
I am so glad I am not the only one who uses trifecta and loves it! I see a big difference once they are on it.

I have been thinking of adding the TRi Amino as well and I think you just sold me.
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