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post #1 of 16 Old 04-05-2017, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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Getting Pounds of feed into young horses...?

I've been going with what the last people were doing feeding-wise. Eventually upped it to about 3/4 a pound. But read the bag and it said that the 9mo pony colt at his current weight & age should be eating 4.5 POUNDS of it a day.....

Maybe that works on stalled and grass-less horses, but this colt is horribly picky, the slowest eater on Earth and I would have to go out and stand there for 20min at least 4-6 times a day just to get that fed to him!

And after the 2nd meal of it in a day, he is done and no way you will get him to eat any more. Done. Burnt to a char done. =/

Mine is out 24/7, 365 days a year, rain or shine, heck or high water. Grass is starting to grow, so he has less interest in his hay and his interest in feed is also dwindling.

Short of locking him in a stall with water, hay and the feed for however long it takes him to finish, I don't see him eating hardly more than 1.5#.

So how do you get that much feed into them or do you not bother?

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Is he thin and needs to put on weight? If not, don't force extra feed to him. If hes healthy, nice coat and good weight, dont bother. Label instructions on feed bags are designed to sell more feed, the more you give him, the more often you buy feed.
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Excuse my ignorance but why are you pushing to get "pounds of feed" into a baby?
Isn't the hay and pasture grasses enough to maintain a slow growth rate and decent weight on the frame?

I would be more inclined to push he eat a vitamin and mineral supplement so he gets his daily necessities in a concentrated form than push food he not need in that little belly and not want another bite....
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horselovinguy, I'm not pushing anything. He comes up to me when he's done to remove the feedbag, even if that means he only ate half, and that's that. I just wanted to know what others do and why it says so much feed when he clearly won't eat it. =/

HombresArablegacy, He is a little ribby, but he's going through a growth spurt right now.

He eats out of a feedbag, he flings and kicks buckets, even if tied to a post, he finds a way to get it all on the ground. But with the feedbag, he eats calmly until he's done and then comes up to me to take the bag off and away he goes to graze. He's real smart, figured that out in just a couple times wearing it!

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Excuse my ignorance but why are you pushing to get "pounds of feed" into a baby?
Isn't the hay and pasture grasses enough to maintain a slow growth rate and decent weight on the frame?

I would be more inclined to push he eat a vitamin and mineral supplement so he gets his daily necessities in a concentrated form than push food he not need in that little belly and not want another bite....
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Can't wait to hear what those who breed and raise babies, good quality healthy horseflesh have to say....

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Exactly. Why does a horse not in work need anything but as much grass hay/pasture as it wants, and a ration balancer? I read the feeding recommendation on a bag of anything, about once, to get a glimmer of what the manufacturer thinks, and then I go by what my horse looks and acts like.

I thought that the main reason to feed concentrated rations to young animals was to fatten them to butcher weight as fast as possible. But I wait to be educated.

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Alrighty, I'll keep feeding him as much as he himself wants and ignore the bag.
Thanks.
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This feed isnt concentrated enough for this horse. The recommended feeding amount is what it is because that is what it takes to get the daily amount of nutrition needed for that weight and age of horse into the horse. Each brand and type of feed will have different amounts of nutrients per lb depending on the needs of the horse you are feeding and it is targeted for. Feeding under the RDA is not recommended. You should change feeds instead to something more appropriate so your baby is getting the nutrients he needs. Pasture and hay is great but often they lack certain crucial nutrients in many areas to grow a healthy baby.

I will generally choose something with more dense nutrition per lb in a case like yours and add extra calories as needed with a richer forage on top of free choice pasture/grass hay. For example, a ration balancer would probably only be a pound or two at most a day to get all the nutrition recommended but you might add extra calories with alfalfa hay if the ration balancer wasnt enough in the calorie department.
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Alrighty, I'll keep feeding him as much as he himself wants and ignore the bag.
Thanks.
I am hoping you are being sarcastic not serious with this answer....

Horses have no sense of "STOP, eat no more!"

A horse will gorge itself, literally overeating itself to disastrous results....

Please, I was asking a legitimate question of why feed feed.....
I am awaiting a answer from those who do know just as you are...

In the meantime...less is more is my thinking.
I know you can "rush" growth with bad effects to growth plates but do not know how much feed it takes to do such a thing...

Please slow down...
Those that do breed, raise young to be healthy working horses will come on, see your inquiry and help you...
Don't over overfeed and create a issue where right now maybe you don't have one...
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horselovinguy, He will not eat more than 3/4 a pound in his morning feeding and that is how much I put in his bag. Later in the day, I put in 1/4# and sometimes he will eat it and other times he will take a bite or two and then come up to me to take it off so he can graze instead. He will never eat the full 4.5#, surely no time soon. He is not like most horses, he doesn't like man made feeds and treats. It took me weeks of slowly adding hay cube bits mixed with his pellets to even like them. He is a weird horse and highly picky. He will not eat any other treat, no other feeds, no fresh treats like a slice of apple.
He is a lot like my pinto mini when I first got her, it took me a long time to get her to eat proper hay and a pelleted yearling diet. It wasn't until I had her well over a year that her pickiness finally started to wane.

What I meant is that I will continue with giving him the 3/4# in the AM & the 1/4# at noon and when he is finishing it up all for a few days, I'll up it a little and keep it at that amount until he is finishing that all up again. According to the bag, he should be eating 4.5# so that will take forever for him to slowly work up to. Unless he suddenly switches souls with any other horse, he won't eat as much as the bag says to give him now.


They all have pasture, grass hay, pastured-horse loose minerals, salt block and fresh water available to them. So does the colt. So far, he won't touch the salt nor the loose minerals. The 3 adult horses get an RB.




If anyone knows what is better to be feeding a pasture raised colt, let me know. As in, what brand of growth feed if any, which type within that brand, any specific RB to mix in, and so on.

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Alrighty, I'll keep feeding him as much as he himself wants and ignore the bag.
Thanks.
No, he will not get the required vitamins and minerals. What feed are you wanting to feed?

For ponies, a ration balancer or food made for them (like triple crown lite- is often the correct answer... 2# can be fed compared to 6-8# to get the required vitamins, minerals and protein. I think the lite may not be suitable for a growing horse- but TC IS WONDERFUL to answer questions.

https://www.triplecrownfeed.com/products/lite/

A ration balancer would probably work great. Add a fat supplement if more calories are necessary.
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