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post #1 of 10 Old 11-16-2015, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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HA supplement

Hi,

I was using an HA supplement from Smart Pak that I can't find anymore.
It was called HA EQ (formerly Vetri HA). Does anyone know of anything similar?
I don't want any other ingredients in it except perhaps MSM.

Thanks in advance.

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post #2 of 10 Old 11-16-2015, 10:29 AM
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Is there a specific problem you are trying to address for your horse with a supplement? Or just being proactive?

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He is 21. :)

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post #4 of 10 Old 11-16-2015, 08:57 PM
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Both of these are pure.

1. Lubrisyn

https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail....FYQ7aQodCTEAFQ

2. Kinetic Conquer which is the strongest OTC dosage on the market. My vet had me put one of my horses on this. I also give him MSM separate as another horse needs the MSM but not the HA.

Conquer Liquid (64 oz)

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post #5 of 10 Old 11-17-2015, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks! Trying Lubrisyn. :)

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He is 21. :)
A few more details besides his age would be helpful.

If you haven't already done so, a good lameness eval with an equine vet is the right place to start. An aged horse is likely to have some sort of arthritis problem. It's good to know what you are dealing with so you can tailor a program to your horse.

For example, if your horse has bone spur on his hock, you can feed all the supplements that you want, but it probably isn't going to help at all. If you want to continue riding, you'll need to do something further such as injections or Previcoxx to manage the discomfort, in this example.

Yes, supplements can be very helpful, but if you don't know what you are trying to treat, you're really just guessing on where to spend your money (and potentially wasting it).

Also, it's really a catch 22 on how much feed-through supplements actually make it to the joints. There's conflicting research. With that said, I still feed supplements to my boys (either Platinum Performance CJ or T.H.E. Muscle Mass custom blend with joint support). But you can also consider other therapies such as Adequan or Pentosan to help maintain your horse's joints.

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Hi, sorry. He's had hock injections (coffin joints too). Vet thinks he is aging well (arabian) :)
I give him pentosan as well.

He's not lame at the moment and I hope to keep him that way :)

He actually just got over anaplasmosis and has been 100% sound since treatment...which makes me wonder about arthritis.

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What exactly is wrong with his hocks? Fusing? Lack of cartilage? Bone spurs?

Why were his coffin joints injected? Were there any bony changes in the navicular bone on X-ray? Or does the vet think it is soft tissue? (Had ultra sound been done?)

Pentosan is a good place to start. I'd definitely keep doing that. Although spendy, there's also Osphos and Tildren to consider, depending on exactly what you are dealing with.

Yeah, go ahead and feed a feed-through. The research is conflicting on how much actually makes it. But obviously stay on your Pentosan. What are you dosing it at?
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post #9 of 10 Old 11-19-2015, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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My vet doesn't want to do x-rays, she is overly conservative.
She injected him because he was off in front and back. She said his coffin joints were fused, but again, no rads or ultrasound.
I just started Pentosan (switched from Ichon) and did 6ml once per week for a month, now I'm doing it monthly. I'm not averse to doing it every two weeks.

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My vet doesn't want to do x-rays, she is overly conservative.
???

She'll gladly take your $$$ and do expensive injections, but she won't do basic x-rays?

Honestly, that is a HUGE red flag for me for a vet. Blindly injecting a horse without even doing basic x-rays to find out what's wrong.

Find a new vet. That's terrible. There is absolutely nothing "conservative" about injecting both the hocks and coffin joints of a horse with doing any diagnostic testing.

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She injected him because he was off in front and back. She said his coffin joints were fused, but again, no rads or ultrasound.
Coffin joints fused? She can tell this without doing an x-ray? Does she have x-ray vision like Superman?

Wow. Again, red flag. Ditch this vet!!!

I am absolutely appalled.
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