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post #31 of 36 Old 05-08-2017, 03:15 PM
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I haven't read everyone's posts, but I think I've read enough. I just want to say, I've been in a similar situation to John Doe, and it sucks. When I moved my gelding from my parent's home closer to me at my In-Laws they had a know it all neighbor who tried to tell me what to do all the time with my horse.

My horse was low man on the totem pole at my parents house and was often pushed off feed or just plain pushed around. Yes he was a bit thin (even thinner than usual that year), but not unhealthy. This neighbor often "reminded" me to feed him when I take him off the pasture, which I already did. He got a couple flakes to hold him over for the night, and sometimes he didn't even eat all of that. I was also told to make sure he always had minerals and salt available, which I was already doing. I usually just nodded and said thanks and tried to think nothing of it because I hate conflict.

Then I learned that before this neighbor moved out he had talked to my husband as well to get me to feed my horse. My husband blew it off because he knew I was in fact taking care of my horse. He had also asked my mother-in-law if my husband and I were having financial struggles and needed money for hay (the hay could be easily seen in the hay loft). My MIL is a no nonsense woman and told him where to stick it and that she knew for a fact the horse was being fed.

This neighbors horses (which he thought were pictures of perfection) were so fat and out of shape so of course my horse would look super emaciated to him. And it honestly hurt to know someone thought I wasn't caring for my horse, or couldn't afford it. I didn't like this guy before, and hated him even more after that.

My gelding has since gained weight and is looking better than ever, even a bit chunky, which I've started working on.

I don't know. I do think it's great to care and to take action, but without knowing EVERYTHING it's hard to make that call. You did talk to them, they said they were going to get the horse to the vet. That's where it should stay for now. I too would be a bit miffed if my horse was getting treats without my permission. I don't want them getting sick, and my mini only gets treats if she works for them. If you want to stay friends and want to stay close to the horse, I would probably apologize.

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post #32 of 36 Old 05-08-2017, 03:21 PM
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In the wet season, my horses are muddy more than they are not. My horses are left with hay 24/7 only because I think it's better for their digestive system to trickle feed and I am unable to give them a third feeding in the day and they don't have much grass to speak of. One place where I used to keep them, they didn't get hay at all as there was plenty of grass all spring, summer, and fall. The majority of people feed their horses twice a day. I honestly have to make it as hard as possible for mine to get at their hay with nets otherwise they would be obese. With my yearling filly, I would prefer to see a couple of ribs in the middle there.

Honestly, if I caught you giving any of my horses a gallon size bag of fruits and veggies, you would get more than being asked to leave and not come back. Especially if I felt like you were not hearing me and I thought you would do it again. You might even get the vet bill that feeding such stuff caused.

You came on a horse forum and asked a question. The people that responded are knowledgeable horse people who are telling you that what you are thinking and doing is not only wrong but potentially harmful to the horse. From what you are saying, it's apparent that you are not knowledgeable on proper care for horses yet you are insisting that you are right. That is where it becomes dangerous for the horse and is why people are telling you to just back off.

Any number of people here would jump in to the aid of a truly neglected horse but this does not seem to be one of those cases at all. I suppose you can call animal control and have them come out but it will be all for not and any kind of repair of friendship with Mr. and Mrs. Doe will be out the window. I personally would be livid with you if you did that to me and I thought you were my friend.

This horse does not look neglected to me. I am also looking at other things as well, such as feet and things. Usually when a person does not want to feed their horse they also don't want to have feet trimmed either and his looked fine. This horse looked to me like an older horse that came out of winter a little on the thin side that will pick up the weight just fine as the pasture comes in. He might have some issues that need to be looked at but he did not look starved to me.
Another said this but I'm going to say it too. A heated barn is not necessarily a healthy barn. Most peoples barns are not heated and although it would be great for us if they were, not really so great for the horses. Also, I would much prefer my horses standing on dirt or sand as opposed to concrete. Mud is not so great but an evil we cannot get around certain times of year. You just have to deal with it.

I suspect that you were asked to leave because you insulted them and were coming off as being trouble, not helpful at all.
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post #33 of 36 Old 05-09-2017, 03:20 AM
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MissMae, I do hope you sent an apology to these people. I saw the photo , and yes the horse was thin, but if he is over 20 yrs old, he was not in that bad of shape.
horses like to be dirty , it is natures way of bug control. Keeps the flies off his skin.
The horse could have used a good brushing, but nothing screamed neglect.
You never feed a bale of hay a day , unless you have 20 pound bales . As other stated a Heated barn is not good for horses. They need good ventilation . In fact if it does not get really cold, no snow, then all they need is a rain /shade cover. Cement is not good for horses,Dirt is the best thing.Shavings or straw in a box stall.
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This reminds me of some truly neglected & skinny(seriously skin & bone) horses I & a friend took on many years ago. We brought them home, with young foals at foot, and as they were also pretty feral & frightened of people, we kept them in a big yard/small paddock.

We had a vet booked, to check them out & advise the day after they arrived. On her advice, we fed them only grass hay to begin with, and not free-choice, but in a number of meals, in nets, so they didn't gorge too much after being starved. Advised to be VERY cautious and gradual in introducing more/richer feed. We also prepared to wean the (only 3mo & thin) foals too. Didn't do it immediately, for fear of further stress to the weak mares, but didn't want them sucking too much more from mares that couldn't afford it.

So... one morning, we arrived at the yards to feed, only to find them all hanging their heads & scouring. We didn't know why, but called the vet who advised this was a bit strange, could be bad & to withold feed, watch closely, call her out if they didn't soon improve(yes, in hindsight, a bit... strange advice, but was a long time before I knew it sounded so). So they did thankfully improve by later in the day. One mare was pregnant on arrival - found out because she lost the little-developed foal the next day though.

Then a few days later, the same 'sickness' happened again. And that the mares had been hanging out in a barren corner of the yards nearest the road. Went to see if there was anything apparent... and found traces of a bale of lucerne(alfalfa)!!! Some do-gooder had been throwing bales to our poorly girls over night and made them very sick, could very well have killed them!!!

That very day, we set up an electric fence along there, to make access by 'do-gooders' difficult, if not impossible. We also made big signs to say 'rescue horses. DO NOT FEED!'

John Doe may well not have been 'offended' by OP's behaviour, but frightened for the health of his horse if she were allowed to keep feeding him as she had done/indicated.
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Heated barn? real floor? my barn doesn't even have 4 walls, let alone heat!
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