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post #21 of 25 Old 05-10-2017, 02:19 PM
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I switched my horse from the feed she was on to Triple Crown Low Starch, and she was entirely different horse. Still looked wonderful, and had energy, but it was more directable. As in, she wasn't purposely looking for something to startle at. We've since moved on from that, and are now in Renew Gold. It's in it's own manufacturing plant, so less possibility of there being contamination from cattle feeds. But it's a gigantic pain in the rear since you have to order it through Tractor Supply. It IS more expensive, but the overall quality is a lot better and we feed quite a bit less compared to the Triple Crown Low Starch.

Good luck though! She looks wonderful in the pictures, particularly for her age!
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post #22 of 25 Old 05-10-2017, 02:26 PM
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She does looks awesome! I'm looking for something comparable. I guess worst case if it doesn't work I can swap back. I like the way she looks, I don't mind the energy, but I can't take the "about to explode" part. She gave me 5 good bucks the other day because I wouldn't let her canter. Totally not like her. With all the feeds in the market there has to be something that she'll look good on AND be able to maintain her cool with.
Try the Ultium... I really need to find an ingredient list.. It's higher fat so you will feed less and I've seen it fed to ALL sorts of horses and not make a one hot.

NSC of 19 vs say 16 is irrelevant, especially as you'll end up feeding less.

It sounds to me like it's not so much the grain itself as opposed to the amount, which isn't high but is enough that she's actually getting some and she's more sensitive. I agree to change up your riding but try a higher fat grain and/or supplement with something like beet pulp for weight.

Or Poulin brand Fibermax is a good high fat feed more similar to the Ultium, but another option would be something like the Etec One which is similar to what she's getting but has no grain or molasses so you would feed roughly the same amount but it shouldn't make her hot. (This is what I feed my mare with digestive issues). Not saying not to feed TC just listing feeds I have extensive experience with and am very happy with and haven't actually used or seen used around here TC.

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post #23 of 25 Old 05-10-2017, 03:45 PM
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I use the Triple Crown Safe Starch Forage and add some TC lite or TC Low Starch pellets to that plus a bit of soaked sugar beet (no added molasses). If a horse is a bit picky you could try Nutrena Safe Choice Special Care Pellets, they have a low amount of molasses in so might appeal more
You can add meds to that lot - I've got a horse that's on Previcox right now and another that's on Prascend though I find it helps to use the Newtons Cookies (the ones with a fruity filling) like pill pockets. I cut them in half (so they have half a cookie at a time) and stuff the pill into them then drop it into the feed.

Just winging it is not a plan
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post #24 of 25 Old 05-10-2017, 10:35 PM
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I meant to say this earlier but the problem with a lot of the low NSC feeds is that they are designed for easy keepers. This was actually the problem with my gelding who has laminitis (due to IR) caused by Cushings...the Cushings has turned him into a hard keeper so while we need to be super careful with his diet we were also having trouble keeping weight on him. At best "low starch" feeds tend to have a minimal amount of fat with some being very low. Beet pulp isn't an option for my guy (my mother cares for him not me) so I was looking at feeds. Your mare is in a similar boat, while not necessarily a hard keeper she does actually need the feed so while you can find some feeds with very low NSC chances are the fat content will be minimal so you will need to feed more negating the goal. (Which is what worked with my boy, while 14% or whatever it is is relatively high for a laminitic horse he's on a higher fat feed so needs much less so less total NSC and I was lucky that this was able to work for him.)
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Today was day 3 of cutting back the Healthy Edge..... WOW!!!

I started by lunging her today. Typically she'd take off running, farting, squealing and bucking. Today she stepped of nice and calmly and trotted around, no stupid stuff. Brought her on trail and she WALKED like a normal horse until I asked her to trot. She was cool calm and collected at the trot. No jitters and no speed demon... she like 75% better! I feel like we even did more work today because I wasn't constantly fighting her.

To those who mentioned the TC low starch, she was originally in that when I got her from the barn I was working at. I think I may try that first before the senior. Energy has NEVER been a problem, and if she was 5 years younger should would probably get great on the ration balancer alone. I think the ripe age of 21 is semi catching up to her, though she is obviously in good shape all things considered!

@horselovinguy , I'll ask about increasing the RB, but I think she is going to need more fat. I do give a scoop of cool calories because she will eat her meds with it. I don't really want to pay for extra supplements when I pay full board.

Unfortunately turn out time is a null point. If it were up to me she'd in a large paddock with a run in shed and outside 24-7. She isnt totally stalled, but does have small in and out. The barn owner does let her out in the ring for me a few days a week though, which is nice of her. More or less anywhere I move will be the same regarding turn out, unless I increase my budget to the $850-1,000 range. The only bright side is that I'll be moving off of Long Island to to PA in January. I'll probably be sending her ahead of me in November.

I'm sure her behavior isn't solely driven by the food, but I do think it plays a big component. I've been blaming it on everything but the food, but the issues remain.

Farrier work is the same. She's still getting her awesome plastic shoes.

As far as pain.... doubt it. The bucking was a one time occurance preceded by a lot of hold her back. She felt like a bottle rocket ready to blow, and I absolutely didn't expect her to do it. She hasn't done it before and hasn't done it since. She isn't pinning her ears, sucking back, switching her tail, or giving me any other signs she'd be in pain. If it was pain related I'd eat my hat.
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