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post #11 of 14 Old 05-15-2017, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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I'm curious, especially if he is still 'chunky', what is the 'hard feed' he's getting & why? I'd definitely consider feeding him a nutritional supp, but certainly not 'hard feed' in the way it's commonly meant.

So I'm guessing now he's still in the same paddock & there is nothing left of the grass? Then unless he's little, he will likely need a bit more than 5kg hay a day. And as mentioned again, they shouldn't be left hungry in between 'meals' either. With a small holed hay net(you can buy it by the m from the manufacturer, Haverfords, WAY cheaper than as 'hay net' from a saddlery or such), a round bale lasts for nearly 4 weeks for my 3 horses.
He's on hygain zero, a fibre based feed. Just pellets. 5 kg twice a day of hay and still plenty of grass in the paddock. Its now winter here though so the nutritional value of the grass isn't enough.
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Yeah, I'm in Yarra Valley, so know the season, know the feed! So I assume he's getting the Zero in an attempt to provide nutrition? The more I have learned about nutrition, I've come to believe horses generally need nutritional supps throughout the year, not just over winter. Nutrition is one of those huge & convoluted subjects!

I use Zero myself, as a 'low cal' treat, and also as a carrier for nutritional supps. Unfortunately, it's not a 'ration balancer' and won't give him an awful lot of what he needs. If you want to go for Hygain, their 'Balanced' isn't a bad product. I too have fatties & I chose not to feed this though, because of the quantity, so calories needed to be fed of it. Mine are on solely bush grass ATM, and they're supped with KER Gold and extra magnesium. I highly recommend looking into supping extra Mg, for a number of reasons, not least that he's likely insulin resistant if he was/is obese.

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Yeah, I'm in Yarra Valley, so know the season, know the feed! So I assume he's getting the Zero in an attempt to provide nutrition? The more I have learned about nutrition, I've come to believe horses generally need nutritional supps throughout the year, not just over winter. Nutrition is one of those huge & convoluted subjects!

I use Zero myself, as a 'low cal' treat, and also as a carrier for nutritional supps. Unfortunately, it's not a 'ration balancer' and won't give him an awful lot of what he needs. If you want to go for Hygain, their 'Balanced' isn't a bad product. I too have fatties & I chose not to feed this though, because of the quantity, so calories needed to be fed of it. Mine are on solely bush grass ATM, and they're supped with KER Gold and extra magnesium. I highly recommend looking into supping extra Mg, for a number of reasons, not least that he's likely insulin resistant if he was/is obese.
I'm Yarra Valley too!

I think I'll be feeding him similar to this forever from now on but I was actually looking into the hygain balanced too instead He is looking super fit and healthy at the moment so I will see how we go! Thanks for the advice, tbh when I bought him I was super worried about him foundering from his weight
I do have a salt lick in the paddock but I was thinking about getting the one that contained mg and all those extra supps they need, it does have molasses to improve the flavour
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Yeah, it's been shown that horses get little from a 'lick'. Therefore, while mine generally have a straight salt(Himalayan) lump in their paddock, they also get salt & Mg in their feed too. Their 'feed' being about 1kg max between 3 of them - just enough to mix supps with & be palatable for the fusspots!
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