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post #1 of 19 Old 06-19-2019, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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Need opinions on purina wellsolve l/s for a hard keeper ottb

My thoroughbred is a hard keeper and is not gaining weight on current diet which is free choice hay, pasture, alfalfa cubes, ultimate finish 100 and california trace plus, he needs a feed that has 11% nsc or less because he is very sensitive to starch and sugar
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Have you contacted Purina directly with your specifics and see what their nutritionists can offer for help?
Its free... https://www.purinamills.com/ask-an-expert
Purina has such a diverse line of products there may be more than 1 product you can try.
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post #3 of 19 Old 06-19-2019, 01:58 PM
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Have you looked into Poulin Grain Fibre Max?
My OTTB is on it, and she looks great. Really great feed. I top dress it with Tribute GC Plus as a ration balancer & it also contains joint support and probiotics. I'm not really a fan of Purina, although I know some people love it.

Also, see if there's any equine nutritionists in your area (not sales reps, actual nutritionists) that can help. :)

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Oops...WELCOME back to the Forum!! Hope to see you posting more often...


So, I found a general geographic location for you and it comes back southern US...
Then I went to Seminole feed....
Then I found several of their Wellness brand is 12% or less in sugar/starch numbers...
https://seminolefeed.com/product-comparison/
If I had a dealer closer than 45 minutes drive that stocked these products faithfully my horse would be eating their Wellness Senior mix, period.
Alas, the dealer is about 40 minutes away but often is out and that doesn't work for me so instead I feed Purina Ultium {combined 16% sugar/starch max.} that several vendors carry and have on hand never running out.
A bit higher in S & S, but my horse is able to handle them.

If you have a hard-keeper horse also look for a feed that has packed calories per pound so less fed is needed.
I have a hard keeper and found adding 100% straight alfalfa cubes soaked, fed once a day {2 -3 handfuls} was all my guy needed in addition to his daily rations and he put on the pounds, the bloom and looks great.
I know you are feeding cubes, but is it enough of them to make a difference?

Without needing said...
Is horse current on teeth care & worming?
Not all worms are seen on fecals either so do take that into consideration too...
Are all the nutritionals in balance so no making the delicately balanced digestion out of whack?
Have you also done a sand test lately to make sure the horse is absorbing all nutrients from the food fed as needed... https://www.drgarfinkel.com/client-e...horse-for-sand

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post #5 of 19 Old 06-19-2019, 02:39 PM
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Do you have access to triple crown feeds? If so there senior is 11% nsc. Way better feeds then Purina. I have a bag of strategy professional formula GX It's the feed my gelding will currently eat.

I'd much rather he eat TC senior. Being I only give him 2 cups of the strategy. .probably not making much difference.

He'll be back to tc senior here when he quits eating the strategy. He has 5 different feeds he eats so when he quits eating one, I go to the next kind.

Triple crown is by far better feed.
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Triple crown is by far better feed.

Why do you think Triple Crown is better feed?
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I dont have triple crown in the area where I live, I have tried a few of the seminole wellness feeds but he didnt gain much weight on them
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Why do you think Triple Crown is better feed?
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Because every bag of triple crown feed is exactly the same. Have two bags of strategy, and second bag is not like first bag opened .. not impressed.

Same with other Purina feeds every bag of whatever kind of feed is different from bag to bag. Again not impressed.

My dad worked for purina for many years he wouldn't buy there feeds... my dad isn't around anymore passed away 5 years ago this August. so there's that.
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And even with a fixed formula I find the TC is a hot mess. It was recommended when I couldn't get the specific Purina or Nutrena I was feeding. I have dumped or returned more bags of the TC I have bought because they have a sour smell, are overly sticky because the molasses is so thick, have also found balls of corn (which is why I say milling issue). When they're good the horses eat it like candy when they're bad they've been really bad. We have had all kinds of issues with availability but when I open a bag of Strategy, Senior or Ultium it has not had a different appearance or smell same with the Nutrena. I think it is a milling issue and will depend on the area you live in as well as your horse and how you feed.
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post #10 of 19 Old 06-19-2019, 03:35 PM
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A local feed store ordered TC on the request of several owners, then quit carrying it when people were returning it due to lack of consistency between bags, debris found in the bags, etc. I tried it for one bag and my 'will eat anything that isn't nailed down' horse refused to touch it. It smelled awful so I don't blame him. Said store is now a Purina dealer and doing very well. I've not seen any variance bag to bag with the Purina ration balancer I'm feeding, but have noticed color difference from bag to bag with Nutrena's similar product.


One of my old geldings had trouble keeping weight on no matter what we did after he turned 28 and most of his teeth were gone. We put him on Purina Senior with a few handfuls of Calf Manna added and he put on weight, felt good, and looked fat and sassy until the day he died at age 34. He was racing the yearlings in his pasture the evening before he was found dead. I credit their feed with giving me several more good years with my old man.
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