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post #1 of 19 Old 04-03-2017, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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Opinions on feeding grain

Hi there guys. I would like to get input on feeding grain. My horses is a 5.5 year old mare. She's very smart... a thinker... I have affectionately named her Miss Bratty Pants. She has been that way since our first day together and I love her personality. Late last fall my trainer suggested we put her on half a scoop of sweet feed because she was a little ribby and we could feel her backbone. She has filled out nicely but is not too fat. She is maintaining a healthy weight. The other day Miss Bratt decided it would be fun to take off at a canter on the road and I had a bit of a time getting her back down to a walk. Now, we have had a miserable winter, way too much ice to do any regular amount of riding, then we had a frigid snap and the day she did this was a beautiful warm sunny day... so dramatic weather change. The managers at the barn are telling me to do myself a favour and take her off the grain because it is making her hot. They said that after they turned her out from a night in the barn she ran, jumped and kicked for over an hour. I am cutting her back to 1/4 scoop then will take her off. Any thoughts about grain??? Just gather opioions. Thanks
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You can generally find something better to feed than sweet feed, nutrition wise. If you have been feeding it since the fall and only now she is going loony, I'd blame it more on spring and the weather.

There is little evidence linking high sugar food to excessive energy, beyond the horse having more available energy stores. Like the sugar making kids crazy myth.
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I am death on sweet feed from a health perspective.

Plus, when a horse sweats out sweet feed, it is a disgusting odor that attracts flies. I can't smell it but my friend's husband can pick out every horse on a trail ride that eats sweet feed. He's tested himself more than once.

Research equine rice bran in your area. Ours comes in pelleted or meal form. The bag HAS to say "stabilized and calcium fortified", as rice bran is high in phosphorous.

Rice bran is healthy fat and provides the horse with cool energy. Do not feed more than the maximum recommended amount on the bag:)
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I doubt that half a scoop of sweet feed would have done a lot of weight gain or made her 'high energy'
Generally speaking a healthy horse that isn't in particularly hard work will maintain weight and even be overweight if fed just decent hay or grass. You would likely have to add some minerals and vitamins to that depending on location and time of year.
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Late last fall my trainer suggested we put her on half a scoop of sweet feed because she was a little ribby and we could feel her backbone.
How much does your half a scoop WEIGH? (Get a scale and measure.)

What brand of sweet feed are you giving her?
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What, besides the sweet feed, is your horse eating? How much forage, by weight, is she getting daily?
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What, besides the sweet feed, is your horse eating? How much forage, by weight, is she getting daily?
Just to add, also how much turnout/exercise is she getting?
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suggested we put her on half a scoop of sweet feed because she was a little ribby and we could feel her backbone. She has filled out nicely but is not too fat.
Hi, yeah, 'sweet feed' is a bit like Maccas for humans - junk food & so generally not the best idea. Cereal grain is high in starch & sugars, which is not great for horses, and difficult to digest, and 'sweet feed' is also dosed with extra molasses/sugar. **So saying, it's not *always* a bad move to feed grain, if there are no better alternatives. Important to feed it little & often, to minimise problems & maximise benefits. Grain & 'high octane' ingredients are best for horses in hard work, needing some extra 'oomph' rather than for putting weight on generally. For more weight, more hay is the order of the day to start with, and making sure she's not left to go hungry - if she's kept locked up at night, hay needs to be enough to last her till morning, for eg. It's not good for horses to go hungry for long & gut upsets caused by this can cause weightloss, among other things. Some alfalfa &/or beet pulp, ricebran, copra, and other high energy but low sugar, easy to digest ingreds are good in 'hard feeds'. Of course, ensuring teeth are in good order & she's not wormy, should also go without saying.

If you were only feeding half a scoop(how big the scoop/heavy? How many times daily?) that's probably a pretty small amount, and if the horse is healthy, no IR issues or such, just like a little 'junk food' for people, it would likely have done her little/no harm though, just provide a bit of a 'high octane' kick.

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The managers at the barn are telling me to do myself a favour and take her off the grain because it is making her hot. They said that after they turned her out from a night in the barn she ran, jumped and kicked for over an hour.
Seriously?? She is a 5yo horse, acting like a HORSE, after being cooped up over night, and it sounds like under exercised lately!! As per above, yeah, she doesn't need the grain & IMHO best without it, but unless you're feeding her a fair few of those half scoops daily - or it's a huge scoop - it's unlikely a small amount will be the cause of her jumping out of her skin. Sounds like management is the issue. Especially if you can't exercise your horse enough, ensure she has 24/7 - or as close as can be managed - turnout with other horses, so she can BE a horse. And get more exercise too, which is important for her health & soundness, not just wellbeing.
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I doubt that half a scoop of sweet feed would have done a lot of weight gain or made her 'high energy'
Generally speaking a healthy horse that isn't in particularly hard work will maintain weight and even be overweight if fed just decent hay or grass. You would likely have to add some minerals and vitamins to that depending on location and time of year.
This. Regardless of grain vs no (which a QUALITY grain, not typically sweet feed, fed in appropriate amounts is often a good thing the focus should always be the hay) "half a scoop" isn't a lot. The biggest scoops I've seen, which are BIG, are 3 qts. Half is 1.5 qts... 1.5 qts per day of anything is just not a lot.

As said... she's been on this for awhile... and she's a young horse in the spring... don't blame things on the grain, but if she doesn't need it then don't feed it!
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Thanks for all the input. She is on 24/7 turnout with 24 hr hay access. I put her in over night because we had a late season snow storm with freezing rain warning and with her winter coat shedding out I felt better with her in. She gets 1/2 scoop in the evening and it'snot a huge scoop and it was an especially nice day that she took off on me. My friend also chalked it up to spring. I suspect she is in heat. She is touchy on her sides and belly and pees every time she is in the barn. It's a pattern I see with her. My trainer said to put her on the grain because of her young age and needing to fatten up going into winter. I will look into other more healthy options. Thanks again.
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