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post #11 of 19 Old 04-04-2017, 06:46 AM
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Follows the directions on the feed bag.....which makes recommendations on the weight of food to feed.

I feed by volume, meaning I throw it from a scoop....

That said, I weighed it to find out how much the scoop would throw....

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There is little evidence linking high sugar food to excessive energy, beyond the horse having more available energy stores. Like the sugar making kids crazy myth.
Really? I don't know about it being a myth, because for one, lots of sugar gives me a bit of a 'high' too, and it stands to reason, being 'high energy' I had thought. But I do think that some people are quick to blame any 'sillyness' on sugar & the likes, with kids and horses - a little, like half a scoop of sweet feed, few lollies or a soft drink for kids, isn't likely to do much, if any in that way.

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Really? I don't know about it being a myth, because for one, lots of sugar gives me a bit of a 'high' too, and it stands to reason, being 'high energy' I had thought. But I do think that some people are quick to blame any 'sillyness' on sugar & the likes, with kids and horses - a little, like half a scoop of sweet feed, few lollies or a soft drink for kids, isn't likely to do much, if any in that way.
My father offered me coffee the other day... at 8 pm. I told him he was crazy and he honestly didn't get it.

Then last night I couldn't sleep literally at all. (In fact I still haven't slept more than 2 hours and it's 7pm...) Whelp it suddenly hit me at 7am that the Excedrin that I am not use to taking has caffeine in it... apparently enough to keep me up all night. I just wanted to stop my migraine!

OP while there is no excuse for bad behavior it's honestly not a surprise in the situation. It does sound like she may be in heat. Even the deadest horses can get fresh in the spring. I know how revitalized I feel! Yes, nothing wrong done, just do a little more research in the future.
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Whelp it suddenly hit me at 7am that the Excedrin that I am not use to taking has caffeine in it... apparently enough to keep me up all night. I just wanted to stop my migraine!
Happened to be talking to my nutritionist sister today about caffeine today, because I saw an article on FB - just scanned, didn't read all - that said a cup of coffee at bedtime can actually help you have a good night sleep! Certainly doesn't do that for me - I'm like you by the sounds. She was saying that different genetic types are effected differently by caffeine & for some it can make them dopey! Also acts on the same receptors as sleep, so for eg. if you're really tired & have a coffee, it's not likely to have much effect, but if you first have a 'power nap', to 'revitalise' yourself, then have a coffee, that is meant to do wonders to perk you up!

But I can vouch for the caffeine with painkillers thing - heard about that years ago & as a migraine sufferer, which often drugs don't do anything for, thought worth a try. I just buy the regular painkillers still, but whether it be paracetamol with codeine(pref) or asprin, a half spoonful(sometimes too sick to cope with a cuppa) of instant coffee does seem to make it more effective.
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Caffeine is psychotropic, so it's a bit different than sugar.
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^psychotropic... what a great word! And I think it applies to my headspace well, when I OD on strong coffee! 'Gone troppo'
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I definitely noticed a difference in my horse when we took her off sweet feed. I can't say for sure it was the sweet feed per say that was causing her ADHD-ness (she may have had a sensitivity to one of the ingredients), but food can definitely affect horses in different ways. Just like people. Some people live on sugar and others claim to get hyper after drinking a coke. I don't think there is one size fits all when it comes to nutrition because every body and every horse are different.
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You should try feeding something with more nutritional value if you want to add anything to her diet. I feed all of mine Purina Ultium, and then add from there. For weight I feed them 2oz of oil over their feed.

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Happened to be talking to my nutritionist sister today about caffeine today, because I saw an article on FB - just scanned, didn't read all - that said a cup of coffee at bedtime can actually help you have a good night sleep! Certainly doesn't do that for me - I'm like you by the sounds. She was saying that different genetic types are effected differently by caffeine & for some it can make them dopey! Also acts on the same receptors as sleep, so for eg. if you're really tired & have a coffee, it's not likely to have much effect, but if you first have a 'power nap', to 'revitalise' yourself, then have a coffee, that is meant to do wonders to perk you up!

But I can vouch for the caffeine with painkillers thing - heard about that years ago & as a migraine sufferer, which often drugs don't do anything for, thought worth a try. I just buy the regular painkillers still, but whether it be paracetamol with codeine(pref) or asprin, a half spoonful(sometimes too sick to cope with a cuppa) of instant coffee does seem to make it more effective.
Weird...lol! Yes I'm rather sensitive! My father is not but as he's an avid coffee drinker is maybe just desensitized at 75?

I actually saw an article recently saying to drink coffee THEN take a 20 minute nap. Saying the coffee will start kicking in just as you wake up. Haven't tried it but it makes sense.

Definitely agree with everything you said!

Anyways, point being that different people are effected differently...same with animals.
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