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post #21 of 25 Old 06-10-2014, 03:06 PM
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My IR Arab gets 10g daily, no diarrhea whatsoever. in fact loose stools are an indicator that magnesium storage is full.
How much a horse needs depends on calcium intake also, which in turn depends on area where forage is grown.
Oh, my two non IR, a QH and and Appendix, only need 3g, anything more and poop gets soft.
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My IR Arab gets 10g daily, no diarrhea whatsoever. in fact loose stools are an indicator that magnesium storage is full.
How much a horse needs depends on calcium intake also, which in turn depends on area where forage is grown.
Oh, my two non IR, a QH and and Appendix, only need 3g, anything more and poop gets soft.
I have to apologize. I had the wrong figure in my head. I use the magnesium chloride flakes and we start with 15g twice a day and work from there to find the right balance for each individual horse. These flakes have 156mg of magnesium per 1 gram of flakes. I know there are some horses who are easy keepers on lush pastures that need up to 60g over two feedings per day.

I am glad I asked! Had to get my head straightened out!
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I have to apologize. I had the wrong figure in my head. I use the magnesium chloride flakes and we start with 15g twice a day and work from there to find the right balance for each individual horse. These flakes have 156mg of magnesium per 1 gram of flakes. I know there are some horses who are easy keepers on lush pastures that need up to 60g over two feedings per day.

I am glad I asked! Had to get my head straightened out!

That's why I take the MagOx from California Trace.... they have it figured out for me lol
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I am curious how/where you got this figure. Did you really mean 10 GRAMS a day? Or 10 milligrams? Based on what I have read, neither of those figures are correct. 10 grams would probably give any horse diarrhea and 10 milligrams wouldn't be enough for most laminitic horses to do any good.
Sahara, I'm no nutritionist, so not sure how unique it is that Mg is very subjective as to dose rates. There are a lot of considerations. Firstly 10g may not mean *elemental(pure)* Mg. Each different type has a different amount of elemental Mg - eg. I think Mg Chlor is something like 35% elemental Mg. So that means that if you fed 35g they'd be getting somewhere around 10g daily. There's also the question of bioavailablity. For eg. Mg Ox is the cheapest form & purportedly(conventionally) thought of as the strongest, so theoretically you should be feeding a lot less of this. BUT it is not very easily absorbed by the body at all & also because of this, causes the most issue re constipation/the runs.

And finally, there is no set dosage for a particular horse. It doesn't go on bodyweight - a pony may need more than a warmblood for eg - and it seems more dependent on general health, diet & lifestyle as to how much/little a particular horse needs. And even a small amount is likely to give a horse the runs if it's not built up gradually. Eg. I start a horse on only about 30ml of an about 20% solution of Mg Chlor. I take some weeks to build that gradually up to a 50/50 solution & then begin giving them a bit more too. I know of some who are feeding their horses a couple of cups of Mg Chlor crystals daily in their feeds.
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Thanks, Loosie. I was confusing myself. I had to go back and read what was in my product. We were also talking about 2 different forms of Mag. I use chloride, DHW uses oxide. I think I am straightened out now! LOL
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