Senior with Few Back Teeth - The Horse Forum
 3Likes
  • 1 Post By ClearDonkey
  • 1 Post By farmpony84
  • 1 Post By SRCM16
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 6 Old 05-26-2020, 11:44 AM Thread Starter
Weanling
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 726
• Horses: 4
Senior with Few Back Teeth

I bought a senior pony mare a month ago with very few back teeth, she’s at a good weight even with conditioning her for the summer (30min lunging w/t/c) for my son to ride her.

She can eat grass for the most part and the pasture we have is alfalfa/grass. She can’t chew hay at all, she’ll chew on it and then spit it out if it is being offered to other horses in the pasture. I’ve been feeding her what she is used to from the previous owner which is triple crown senior and Standlee beet pulp pellets. No supplements. I was wondering if there was something better nutritionally that I could be giving her? Is she consuming too much beet pulp since TC senior is beet pulp based?

A few options I have easy access to buy in my area is Triple Crown Complete (which I’d mix with the senior but am worried about her being able to chew the oats) and a few different Standlee pellets (alfalfa, Timothy grass, Timothy/alfalfa, orchard grass and teff grass).

Looking forward to hearing suggestions from the nutrition gurus, feel free to mention any daily supplements as well and I’ll see if I can get it!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 62F505AC-766D-4542-A1FC-5B5648FF24BA_1590507798192.jpg (153.7 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 081D608A-297F-4E90-B567-6EFDB1DF4017_1590507823356.jpg (140.5 KB, 2 views)

It's something you need almost like air or water. ♥
SRCM16 is offline  
post #2 of 6 Old 05-26-2020, 12:08 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,181
• Horses: 0
I would not feed anything high sugar/starch. Tc senior is good being at 11% NSC extra beet pulp won't hurt it's fiber. As long as it doesn't have molasses in it.

Forage based diets are best ,horses don't need grain or sugar in diet.

Pony looks good I'd say she's a bit fat. Looks pretty hairy yet for being almost June. I'd be testing her for Cushing's.

My horses are pretty much shed out just a little winter coat left yet, on belly an legs.
rambo99 is online now  
post #3 of 6 Old 05-26-2020, 01:22 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 678
• Horses: 2
Triple Crown Senior is a great feed that can be used for these older horses unable to eat forage effectively. I would almost stop feeding the beet pulp, and feed more of the Senior pellets. If she were my horse, I would be hesitant to let her have access to hay at all, or even long grass, just in case she tries to swallow it and chokes.

I think your mare looks really good, given her being a senior and lacking teeth. I would get her tested for Cushing's as well. There is a user on here (@walkinthewalk) that recommended feeding L-Citrulline, and feeds it to her IR/Cushing's horse. There isn't much research on its benefits in horses, but many in humans. If you want to check on my thread on 'Strengthening a Horse', there is more that she typed out there in detail.

I give you credit for taking so much care with feeding your senior mare, she looks like such a good horse for your son.
walkinthewalk likes this.

Toofine - 1998 Half Arabian
Minnie - 2013 Morgan
ClearDonkey is offline  
post #4 of 6 Old 05-26-2020, 02:01 PM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 26,080
• Horses: 7
I really like the TC - I use it for my 36 year old. I give mine hay pellets (soaked) with his feed. He also gets to have some regular hay even though he can't eat any of it. He wants it so he chews it and spits it in the water trough. I give him the compressed hay from TSC. The others get round bales pealed.
walkinthewalk likes this.

"Be a best friend, tell the truth, and overuse I love you
Go to work, do your best, don't outsmart your common sense
Never let your prayin knees get lazy
And love like crazy"
farmpony84 is offline  
post #5 of 6 Old 05-26-2020, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
Weanling
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 726
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo99 View Post
I would not feed anything high sugar/starch. Tc senior is good being at 11% NSC extra beet pulp won't hurt it's fiber. As long as it doesn't have molasses in it.

Forage based diets are best ,horses don't need grain or sugar in diet.

Pony looks good I'd say she's a bit fat. Looks pretty hairy yet for being almost June. I'd be testing her for Cushing's.

My horses are pretty much shed out just a little winter coat left yet, on belly an legs.
I’ve written out all the different pellets and the beet pulp is the lowest fiber option, however the teff grass is only 6% more with almost double the amount of protein and triple the amount of fat. Would the teff grass be a better option?
Everything else has 30%+ fiber.

Last week was the first warm stretch we’ve had so far this year, Easter weekend we got about two feet of snow to give you an idea of how our “spring” is going this year. Lol. Didn’t help she came from the county where they still had snow when I picked her up! She’s been shedding like crazy since the weather has finally changed, I’ll keep an eye on her in the coming years though and ask my vet what he thinks.

She is plump because she started to lose weight when I brought her home and started exercising her. I increased her food, but I think most of the weight loss was from transitioning to a new place. I’ve already started feeding her less again but have been focusing more on brushing her out lately than exercising. Trying to find a balance for her, haha!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClearDonkey View Post
Triple Crown Senior is a great feed that can be used for these older horses unable to eat forage effectively. I would almost stop feeding the beet pulp, and feed more of the Senior pellets. If she were my horse, I would be hesitant to let her have access to hay at all, or even long grass, just in case she tries to swallow it and chokes.

I think your mare looks really good, given her being a senior and lacking teeth. I would get her tested for Cushing's as well. There is a user on here (@walkinthewalk) that recommended feeding L-Citrulline, and feeds it to her IR/Cushing's horse. There isn't much research on its benefits in horses, but many in humans. If you want to check on my thread on 'Strengthening a Horse', there is more that she typed out there in detail.

I give you credit for taking so much care with feeding your senior mare, she looks like such a good horse for your son.
She doesn’t have access to hay here, this is what has been told to me from the previous owner. I mentioned that to the PO as well since I’ve had problems with choke in senior horses I’ve owned in the past. Right now she is the only horse on the property until I bring my mare who does eat hay but only at night in her own stall. We have 5 acres that we keep mowed and rotated, the property owner is very particular about pasture maintenance.

It's something you need almost like air or water. ♥
SRCM16 is offline  
post #6 of 6 Old 05-28-2020, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
Weanling
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 726
• Horses: 4
Wow I must’ve been tired the other day 🤦‍♀️
High fiber and calorie, low sugar diet. Stick to forage!
I’ve decided to switch to alfalfa pellets and keep her on TC senior, thanks for the input!

It's something you need almost like air or water. ♥
SRCM16 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome