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post #11 of 17 Old 04-26-2014, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by amigoboy View Post
Oats are the most digestible of all grains, corn is next in line as a good energy source.
Wev now that for 100s of years and for those who want finger tip nutrition facts in oats and corn.
And now it's actually being recommended not to feed them. Especially corn. Oats are the lesser of the evils, but still not all that good. You should never feed corn to a horse.
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While it is possible that the protein is causing it, I would have to go more the insect route. As long as the horse is drinking adequate water, excess protein will not cause a problem.

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15.8 is a med protein. 17 + is higher protein. there will be some proteins in the pasture grass and the first sign of excessive protein would be very dark urine.
what are the other percentages in the bagged feed ? fat / roughages etc...
The oil is a good thing, it takes a while to put on weight .
As for the insects, can you put something on him to discourage them ? swat or even vaseline, fly spray .. if they keep biting him, he will keep getting the edema.
he sounds like he needs the extra nutrition, so I would not change feed on him.
feed made for senior horses is good for any horse that needs to add weight. It is easier to digest .
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OK, more details on his pellets.
Digestible energy 14.3Mj/kg
Crude fiber. 3.8%
Crude protein. 15.8%
Crude fat. 3.7%
Salt. 1.4%
Lysine. 7.4g/kg
Methionine. 2.2g/kg

Tried marmite on toast this morning but he spat it out, maybe he wants Vegemite like any good Australian.

Yes Stevenson I spray him with every kind of bug spray I can find. I live in the tropics and the bugs are insane. Just rubbed him canola oil over his belly now, people say that is enough to stop midgies, I think I'm gonna go to a thick coating of Vaseline next.
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-26-2014, 10:27 PM
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thats not all that bad of a mix. it should have a few more vitamins etc in there, many are trace amts. If you have a limited choice of feed thats available compare the ingredient tags.
If you can find one with a little more fiber and fat, with the same protein amt that would be great.
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Excess protein can cause hard lumps under the skin - these are mostly harmless and more an annoyance as they can occur around the saddle area . Protein is turned into collagen in the subcutaneous layer of the skin ( eosinophilic or nodular collagenolytic granulomas )
The lumps mostly occur around the spinal area - Neck, Wither and back , they are normally smallish ( about 1 - 2 cm across ) and can occur singular or in multiples .

Oats are good - any grain ( corn / wheat / barley ) that absorbs water and swells up should be treated with caution as it can lead to colic
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-27-2014, 04:09 AM
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The average protein need of the grown horse is around 10%
Here is some reading material:
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