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post #11 of 24 Old 03-30-2017, 01:25 PM
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How much of the Seminole are you feeding? It is recommended to feed anywhere from 2.5lbs-10lbs daily to a 1000 lb horse on maintenance. If he isn't already at the upper limit, I would look at increasing that for his weight.
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I personally like to feed my horses a varied diet that consists of a little of this and a little of that. Including some weeds lol. They seem to be doing great, seem healthy, are shiny, plenty of energy, and don't really over reach to much of anything anymore. Even the baby is super mellow. So those are my experiences.
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How much of the Seminole are you feeding? It is recommended to feed anywhere from 2.5lbs-10lbs daily to a 1000 lb horse on maintenance. If he isn't already at the upper limit, I would look at increasing that for his weight.
I have been giving him 6 lbs a day, if I give him a lot of grain he gets hyper
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Seminole Feeds means you're located in the south....

So, your feeding a lesser quality hay and that is why you are feeding alfalfa cubes?
Why not feed the horse some better hay but not the quality of alfalfa...somewhere in the middle?
You feed junk you get not the best results...
You feed better quality hay then your result {appearance} will also be better and not need as much supplementation of things such as alfalfa cubes but as for a "treat" if then...

I do have to agree though that a month off from riding and then expecting the horse to not have any energy needing expelled is not fair to the horse...
To me a "hot" horse is one you did not stay on through their antics but got off and found another way to get some of their antics out of the system by lunging to settle the brain some...

Weather is getting warm and that usually takes some antics out of the tank of many horses...just to hot to play weather....

Make sure the horse was out and moving not standing under a tree in the shade for hours before the next ride or tack up and put the horse in a roundpen or lunge him to see if he is paying attention and attentive to you before getting astride...

Who wants to work when they have had time off to play all those days is not the fault of the horse...
I would have a attitude and be "hot" too...

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post #15 of 24 Old 03-30-2017, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
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Seminole Feeds means you're located in the south....

So, your feeding a lesser quality hay and that is why you are feeding alfalfa cubes?
Why not feed the horse some better hay but not the quality of alfalfa...somewhere in the middle?
You feed junk you get not the best results...
You feed better quality hay then your result {appearance} will also be better and not need as much supplementation of things such as alfalfa cubes but as for a "treat" if then...

I do have to agree though that a month off from riding and then expecting the horse to not have any energy needing expelled is not fair to the horse...
To me a "hot" horse is one you did not stay on through their antics but got off and found another way to get some of their antics out of the system by lunging to settle the brain some...

Weather is getting warm and that usually takes some antics out of the tank of many horses...just to hot to play weather....

Make sure the horse was out and moving not standing under a tree in the shade for hours before the next ride or tack up and put the horse in a roundpen or lunge him to see if he is paying attention and attentive to you before getting astride...

Who wants to work when they have had time off to play all those days is not the fault of the horse...
I would have a attitude and be "hot" too...

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The hay is the best I could find in my area, we had a drought last year so the hay was not very good and not a lot of it, I lunged him for 20 minutes before riding and he was still spooky and hot, he usually is a lazy horse who would rather not do much. I really believe it's the alfalfa I'm going to take it away and see if it helps and give him a little extra grain
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In theory, the Seminole that you are feeding shouldn't make him hot because it is supposed to be a low starch formula; but every horse reacts differently to different feedstuffs.

I have fed plain beet pulp (without molasses) with success.

I definitely wouldn't try any grain feeds (corn, oats, etc.) with this one if he gets hot.
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what grain are you feeding him ? that could contribute to him being hot.
if you have poor quality hay then he would need the alfalfa over the grain .
I do not know anything about the seminole hay .
Do not change the feeds fast, you need to reduce one feed and replace it with another.
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post #18 of 24 Old 04-01-2017, 08:20 PM
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I have had the same issues with feeding straight alfalfa cubes. There are grass cubes or grass/alfalfa mix available as well. My reining stallion loses weight really bad in breeding season, the best thing I found helped & didn't make him hot is Calf Manna pellets.I can feed lots without any bad effects.
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post #19 of 24 Old 04-01-2017, 08:22 PM
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Too much grain will make him hot as well. I left another post for you as well.
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post #20 of 24 Old 04-02-2017, 02:07 PM
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I love Seminole feeds, but my horse doesn't, I tried the Seminole Wellness and Beaux lost condition and was not his normal laid back self. Depending upon how long you have been feeding Seminole, it could be worth a look at your feed program.

I tried a couple of other feeds (Nutrena also makes Beaux hot, and the Healthy Edge by Purina left Beaux with dry/flaky skin) and now I'm trying out Manna Pro's horse feed and it's too early on to say there is a big difference, although the flaky dry skin is clearing up.

Alfalfa is doubtful on making your horse hot, it can happen, so it is up to you if you want to change out the alfalfa cubes, add some beet pulp and some added fat to help with weight. The Spring Crazies are always a fun part of shaking off the winter :)
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