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post #1 of 19 Old 03-23-2011, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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Last night I posted some questions on AC4Hs facebook page, they were deleted within minutes.

So I thought that I would bring the conversation here, to see your thoughts on the subject.

For those who don't know AC4Hs are a horse rescue in PA. They also arrange for the sale of broker horses who are due to be shipped for slaughter. They do a lot of fund raising on many messages boards to raise money to send broker horses to approved homes.

Many of the broker horses still have the auction sticker on them, and they often show the pics early in the week. So I assume they follow the broker home after New Holland auction on Mondays.

These horses are going to slaughter if AC4Hs doesn't help them, but isn't this helping the broker make a massive profit?

The broker prices are excessive for an unknown horse with unknown issues. He is at the price of a horse that you can go see and then ride yourself.

So doesn't that mean he can buy more horses for slaughter the following week?

I wonder if they are increasing the number of slaughters as they are giving him more money to buy more horses.

Also I wonder about the fund raising they do for willing owners, should those owners not be able to pay for the horse themselves if they want it? How would they manage the vets bills for the unknown horse if they can't afford to buy it?

What are your thoughts about this?
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post #2 of 19 Old 03-23-2011, 06:07 PM
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I think I've seen them on youtube =/
In all honestly I think they are just taking advantage of peoples emotions to make a quick buck. Not caring
what happens after that.
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post #3 of 19 Old 03-23-2011, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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They have this statement on their website:

We have taken a pro-active, preventative approach by listing these horses in hopes of assisting them out of the auction/slaughter arena and into a private home. Dangers of auctions are injury, death, illness and the possibility of being purchased for slaughter. We will include all levels of horses available at the broker lots or slaughter pens. We take possession of the horses on Monday vetting is available at a lab a short distance from the barn we rent to take possession of the horses and vetting is done within hours.

The statement in red doesn't make sense to me, as they post threads all over the internet saying save this horse from slaughter, they fund raised to get the broker price to save the horse from slaughter. And yet here they are making a difference between a broker and a kill buyer.

So they rent a facility and take possession of the horses, does that not make the horses their own, and no longer the brokers?
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post #4 of 19 Old 03-24-2011, 01:29 PM
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Alex, I know the rescue you are talking about. I looked in it while back when I was looking for the horse. Personally I find it very awkward to help the broker to sell horses. I also find it ridiculous to ask $2500(!) for the rescue horses (and that was a main reason, which turned me away back then). Yes, I understand it's not cheap to "rescue", still this price is just not right (as an example horses from DEFHR are all $1000 and under).

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post #5 of 19 Old 03-24-2011, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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I feel the same way Kitten.

As they are so active with their fund raising on other boards, I was hoping someone would enlighten me to the benefit of it (other than the obvious, of helping that one horse).
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post #6 of 19 Old 03-24-2011, 06:22 PM
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A lot of other rescues dislike them, I know. They receive quite a bit of bashing from a lot of different places, partially for all that forcing-it-down-your-throat "fundraising", and many, many, rescue groups have said they will absolutely not deal with them EVER, as they are underhanded and in it for all the wrong reasons. I don't know how much is true, and how much is the typical catty behavior you see in the horse world though. I haven't ever really looked into them personally, because they are not that close to me, that I would ever really look there for a horse.

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post #7 of 19 Old 03-25-2011, 12:14 AM Thread Starter
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I knew she had a few snits with other rescues but I thought/assumed that was because of her personality, which is quite strong.
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post #8 of 19 Old 03-25-2011, 07:38 AM
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A quick 5 minute google search found me all this. Granted, they are all still personal opinion, and I don't know if any of it's true, but I keep seeing it pop up that they are "under investigation". Makes for interesting reading, at any rate.
ANOTHER CHANCE 4 HORSES INC - Read volunteer and donor reviews and ratings of charity, non profit organizations, NGOs on GreatNonprofits
UNETHICAL - Another Chance 4 Horses aka AC4H - PA
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post #9 of 19 Old 03-25-2011, 10:52 AM
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Google the rescue's name and you'll find all sorts of stories. They do not have a good reputation in PA, and honestly, I wouldn't trust them or give them a dime. I know a few people who went to look at their horses. Several were quite sickly, and most had severe behavioral issues. They tried to talk a beginner & first time horse owner into a horse that was a severe bucker and would need serious professional help to make him a solid citizen again. They have no interest in where the horse is going, as long as someone writes them a check. They are in no way a rescue that matches horses with a good home.

I've spent most of my life riding horses. The rest I've just wasted.

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post #10 of 19 Old 03-25-2011, 01:53 PM
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i don't know about this particular "rescue", but the more rescues i look in to, the more cases of hoarding i find. that's just my opinion obviously but still. it seems a lot of these rescue groups start out with really great intentions (and probably still do have those great intentions) but they get lost along the way and end up not being helpful in the ways they could/should be. *sigh*
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