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post #1 of 25 Old 10-22-2019, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
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Racehorses slaughtered in Australia

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/sent-to...17-p531sl.html


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/intervi...21-p532tz.html

The video is graphic, but you can just read the article instead.

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post #2 of 25 Old 10-22-2019, 03:35 PM
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Sad but entirely true - no matter what country you are in. Horse Slaughter and the racing industries part in it is well posted on this forum.
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post #3 of 25 Old 10-22-2019, 06:32 PM
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Its not just the racing industry. There are more horses than there are homes in all parts of the industry. We need a viable solution to unwanted/unsuitable animals, and until that happens, slaughter will always be there. Most people who own a home and have a modicum of common sense and a bit of disposable income can successfully care for a dog or cat. The same cannot be said of a horse.
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Of course it isn't anything new, but if we really care about the welfare of horses, we have to ask why more is not done to limit breeding? Or should racing even be made illegal?

Everyone says backyard breeders should not breed, so i may not breed my horses but i can't ignore the fact that there are thoroughbred breeding operations all over with each farm breeding 50-60 horses each year.
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Of course it isn't anything new, but if we really care about the welfare of horses, we have to ask why more is not done to limit breeding? Or should racing even be made illegal?

Everyone says backyard breeders should not breed, so i may not breed my horses but i can't ignore the fact that there are thoroughbred breeding operations all over with each farm breeding 50-60 horses each year.
There are movements to find these very suitable racehorses homes for after their time at the track is done - think of RRP, for transitioning the retired racehorses into sport horses. These horses have beautiful breeding and so much heart; I would rather choose an OTTB for my next horse than some backyard-bred horse that is created on a whim. Sure, there could be less being bred, but that can be said for any QH or Arabian breeder that also breeds many horses every year.

Also, horse slaughter isn't inherently bad. It could be done a lot more humanely, but that will only happen when people will talk about it in more of a sense than "stop horse slaughter!". It's a hard thing to admit not being inherently bad, but when you think about all of the permanently pasture pets or dangerous horses that are being cared for...a quiet end isn't that bad of a thing. And then the horses' bodies will go onto a use, rather than just being dumped in landfills or buried.

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Not everyone considers OTTB's their cup of tea. As a trail rider, I would choose a decently bred backyard horse or Mustang over a TB. It's not that I don't like them or don't want them to find homes. I surely do! No horse deserves to go to a slaughter house. But the TB's I've known have been poor footed and/or fine boned. Not my idea of a good using horse. So I beg to differ on how "well bred" they are. Well bred for racing, sure. But well bred as a using horse? I don't know. Some are, but I wouldn't go looking for an OTTB as my next trail horse. I guess it just depends on what you want. I want short and sturdy myself.

BUT that doesn't mean I am a proponent of horse slaughter. I definitely am not. And I'm sure many of those OTTB's would make good pleasure and show horses, especially for english riders. But all things being equal......training, temperment, etc, give me a Mustang. Or an Arabian. Or a grade. Or better yet, a gaited horse. I guess I am not convinced a TB would stay sound for the riding I like to do.

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But the TB's I've known have been poor footed and/or fine boned. Not my idea of a good using horse. So I beg to differ on how "well bred" they are. Well bred for racing, sure.
*Well bred* racehorses are not fine boned. Agree many aren't that well bred though. I think people with more money than sense, no knowledge of horses, often end up 'backyard breeders' of racehorses because they think any TB is a chance at making them some money on the track.

As for 'poorly hoofed', of course, genetics can play a part there, but it is generally about environmental factors - racehorse management, lifestyle & feed does not promote healthy hooves. But they're generally done racing & thrown away young enough that you can overcome most of that pretty readily.

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Everyone says backyard breeders should not breed, so i may not breed my horses but i can't ignore the fact that there are thoroughbred breeding operations all over with each farm breeding 50-60 horses each year.
That is why I do not care for labels. Essentially a backyard breeder is one who has horses in their backyard (small farm) and will breed them. Whether they have one horse or a few. I mean, you can call yourself anything you want. Hobby breeder, backyard breeder or whatever. Back in the day, almost every horse came from a backyard breeder (farmer?). Most of the time farmers bred their own horses for their own use but also would trade horse flesh. This was a good thing to keep the genetic pool more open. Horses were bred for use first. Entertainment purposes were an afterthought.

Now, you have these huge outfits that breed for specialty. You know, the ones where they have 75 to a 150 broodmares producing maybe 100 or so foals a year for that maybe 1/2 a dozen top notch money winners. The rest are sold off of the feed bill as soon as possible.

Small breeders with whatever label you would like to put on them can't even come near those numbers.

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There are movements to find these very suitable racehorses homes for after their time at the track is done - think of RRP, for transitioning the retired racehorses into sport horses. These horses have beautiful breeding and so much heart; I would rather choose an OTTB for my next horse than some backyard-bred horse that is created on a whim. Sure, there could be less being bred, but that can be said for any QH or Arabian breeder that also breeds many horses every year.

Also, horse slaughter isn't inherently bad. It could be done a lot more humanely, but that will only happen when people will talk about it in more of a sense than "stop horse slaughter!". It's a hard thing to admit not being inherently bad, but when you think about all of the permanently pasture pets or dangerous horses that are being cared for...a quiet end isn't that bad of a thing. And then the horses' bodies will go onto a use, rather than just being dumped in landfills or buried.
A quiet end and going to slaughter is an oxymoron. Why does one think that a dead horse still has to be put to use? They've been used up and still need to be put to use even after death.

In my eyes, a quiet end means quickly and painless as possible. A bullet to the head that is buried in a bucket of grain at the time or lethal injection. What is done with the body afterwards is not a care to the horse anyway.
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