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post #1 of 10 Old 12-27-2016, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
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Ari and I again




Also he thinks the boogie man is on the one side of the ring

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post #2 of 10 Old 02-01-2017, 08:00 PM
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Your horse is so far out behind you its hard to say anything at all other than, get your horse conditioned for riding.
This can be done in many different ways but the general idea is to get the back up and the hind legs underneath him.
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Your horse is so far out behind you its hard to say anything at all other than, get your horse conditioned for riding.
This can be done in many different ways but the general idea is to get the back up and the hind legs underneath him.
I think your statement is a little harsh. He's relaxed, calm, and willing. Sure, he could be more collected but he seems like a lovely boy. I am not sure how you can tell the horse is out of condition, as the light is poor, the video is out of focus, and the horse is quite far away from the camera. I'm not qualified to comment on the riding, but I would like to politely suggest that when you offer a critique, you try to say something positive and/or make a useful suggestion. Useful suggestions tend to specific and "doable", not general statements.

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Nice and smooth, good team. Now, you need to get your legs back just a bit more and engage your seat bones, I would suggest no stirrups for the first 10 or 15 minutes of your ride.

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I don't know how any of you can see any of that. the image is so small, even in full screen, and the resolution so low, I could not even see where her legs were. not well enough to offer any sort of feedback at all.
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post #6 of 10 Old 02-01-2017, 10:43 PM
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Put it in high resolution Tiny, makes it a bit better.

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Of course I meant the critique in the kindest possible way. The comment on conditioning is based on the horse's way of going and not his weight. He IS smooth, but no hock flexion, no swing. He does have great rhythm, and looks to be a willing fellow.
However the foundation of a riding horse is the back, and he isn't using his in these vids. Either because he doesn't have the strength- likely as he isn't complaining, or is unable to use it due to some other reason like poor saddle fit, lameness- less likely based on his movement.
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Can't really see too much, but I second the no-stirrup work. :) It really helps with your leg position. Try doing a count of 6, sitting, then posting, then (once you get the hang of it, as it will take practice/time) 2-pointing in no-stirrups.

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To me, the horse looks willing, but off behind, not quite tracking up at times, and looking stiff
This could be in part due to the fact that is is hollowed out, or to some physical reason
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I'll speak on this situation a bit since I personally know both horse and rider and used to train them.

The saddle is a little too narrow for Ariat (she can't afford a new saddle atm but will eventually). He goes better bareback. His owner is a competent rider but unfortunately where they're located there is basically no one to train with and the trainer who knows anything are REALLY expensive, like $70 a lesson.

His right hind is his weak one, working him helps make it stronger so he is more regular. Chiropractic helps him.

They are a good team and well matched for each other.

I think saddle fit is a big contributing factor because he can't lift through his trapezius muscles comfortably but other issues are rhythm control and inside leg, outside rein connection, effective half halts. Guiding the shoulders through the turns and getting enough bend through the rib cage and organizing his balance up vs flat.

Inconsistency in rhythm is a factor, he needs to be more forward and have his balance assisted with half halts. Like lengthening down the long sides, shortening down the short sides and if he runs through that walk transition 3 steps trot, 3 steps trot walk 3 steps trot and sending him into a lengthening down the long side (remember post higher and use whip as you're coming out of the saddle in the post and as your hip slides forward in canter). With getting him forward, ask as lightly as you want to ask then reinforce with the whip to get a reaction. He has to be in front of your leg first. Then can organize his balance with half halts

Remember guiding his shoulders like shoulder fore through the turns with a few leg yield steps to help with his balance. Use your leg yields from 1/4 line to the wall and wall to quarter line, step in the direction of travel, look where you want to go and inside leg when his rib cage pushes into your leg and half halt as he steps under. Tap his hind end with the whip immediately following using the inside leg. You can also open the outside rein wide to help guide his shoulders over in the turns. Also remember to post into your outside stirrup through the turns, point your belly button in the direction of travel and if you're struggling with the bend looking all the way to his tail and post into your outside stirrup. Inside leg on and off to open his rib cage and help him step over. Remember where you put your weight it where you're sending his balance.

Going left he really struggles with his right shoulder. Remember to ride your 10m circles into shoulder in but without pulling on the inside rein. Remember rotate your belly button in and use your outside knee and rein to bring his shoulders around with a supporting inside leg, if he loses bend or fall out do a 10m circle and bring him back. Inside leg, outside rein.

And don't forget the transitions you learned. Engage your shoulders, hold your core still and engage both reins, release (core, shoulders, fingers release), engage your shoulders, hold your core still, engage both reins with your fingers and release the pressure until you get a reaction. Do a few times until he's respectful.

Same horse and ride combo almost 2yrs ago

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