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post #11 of 27 Old 05-03-2014, 09:34 PM
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something very simple, but with a very big impact, Keep Your Thumbs On Top!

the "piano" hands make the elbow go out, and makes it harder to have meainingful but independent contact with the mouth.

use your inside hand to get a bit of softening by the horse , so that you will feel him firmer on your outside rein. you don't want to be kind of "hauling" evenly on them like they handlebars.
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ugh was I doing piano hands? I know better than that...! I swear! :) but you know.. extreme multi tasking..

thanks Deschutes for the description - my trainer and i were trying to figure out how to describe where to sit down there without being crass... and were failing miserably. (which is where the pee hole/poop hole conversation came from :)) I think sometimes your choices are use whatever vocabulary you can to get your point across or risk being vague and hoping someone magically figures it out. :)

and glad you liked the second horse better - It means my new barn/trainers are doing their job I suppose... i just hate how long i've been cantering and how I'm still negotiating all this stuff. (Started cantering maybe a little over a year ago?). BUT.... we all go at our own pace, and the most important thing is to keep trying and getting good feedback. (it's part why i switched barns, i felt i wasn't getting better)

I'm riding again tomorrow am, will keep all your thoughts in my head. (yay new lease!). Thank you - appreciate all the different perspectives.

Re: any of my advice - Happy to give my two cents, but not an expert... just a girl who loves riding horses!
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post #13 of 27 Old 05-04-2014, 02:09 AM
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Just be glad you aren't OVER accentuating with your seat. It tends to make people look like they're humping the saddle. I have that habit, and it is very hard to break.

Just try loosening those hips a bit more and sink down in that saddle. I sometimes trail ride with a lady who has a percheron cross, and believe me... they are very hard to sit! So, I understand your trouble with big movers. You just gotta really engage that core.
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post #14 of 27 Old 05-04-2014, 02:48 AM
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I think we all do piano hands, a lot more than we realize. just becuase I can suggest you keep your thumbs on top does not mean I can do it all the time. we just keep at it, and make the time doing it right last longer and longer. you've got a very good start.
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I swear I will let my thread die... but I just wanted to tell someone... :) I got a "most improved Canter Position" acknowledgment from my trainer today!! yayyayayay.....! makes me feel like a kid again. and also like it's not all in vain.. lol.

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post #16 of 27 Old 05-07-2014, 03:41 PM
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Straighter back, work on your core strength, ditch the stirrups - without them you will have to sit deeper in the saddle, at present you're hovering above it which means you're using your stirrups to push up against rather than allowing your weight to sink down into your heels
This is a useful video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-fPXEtuhSc
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Keeping your back straight also entails "scooping" with your pelvis. Have you done any pelvic-tilt exercises before? It's the same thing, but lying down, and it really works on those pelvis-associated core muscles (core is not just abdominals!). Here is a Pilates link, where there is an especially good skeletal diagram of a pelvic tilt (scroll down the page a bit). Look how straight the back becomes when the pelvis is tilted! Pilates Basics - www.bodyiqpilates.com.au
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post #18 of 27 Old 05-08-2014, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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I see the skeletal image showing the pelvic positions. what are the specific exercises?

I thought I wanted to ride horses and now I'm starting a whole work out routine off the horse. :) That was NEVER my thing.. but I'm very determined.

I did improve a bunch last week, but I still need to get stronger. I need to be able to summon lower length strength without involving my shoulders consistently.

still doing a 15-20 minute core work out which involves upper and lower ab work, but happy to add some pelvic thrusts in there! :)

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I do Roller Derby for my core workouts. : p

It's like getting a workout, without having to set aside time to "work out." Plus, it's fun even when you're sweating like a pig and your entire body is on fire.
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post #20 of 27 Old 05-08-2014, 03:19 PM
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Obviously improving body strength helps but so would changing your posture - I think you're trying so hard to sit up straight the end result is that your shoulders go too far back and you end up with a hollow back. Just try to relax a bit, let your shoulders slump slightly and go with the rocking action forward flow of the horse instead of the too upward thing you seem to be doing
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