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post #21 of 35 Old 04-26-2017, 02:35 PM
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A couple other things you can try on days that you don't have assistance:

Hold two-point position at the walk for as long as you can, with a loose rein and using either the mane or the front of the saddle as a support if you slip, rather than using the reins to hold you up.

I was going to suggest the same thing. When I started riding again as an adult, my trainer made me spend a lot of time standing in the stirrups in the walk and trot, and it helped my balance tremendously. Looking at your videos, it seems like you are struggling to balance. I can't tell if it's because you are squeezing with your knees rather than letting your weight sink into your heels. Doing the two-point exercise will help you align your body to stay in balance.
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post #22 of 35 Old 04-27-2017, 11:19 AM
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I was going to suggest the same thing. When I started riding again as an adult, my trainer made me spend a lot of time standing in the stirrups in the walk and trot, and it helped my balance tremendously. Looking at your videos, it seems like you are struggling to balance. I can't tell if it's because you are squeezing with your knees rather than letting your weight sink into your heels. Doing the two-point exercise will help you align your body to stay in balance.
Another thing I'd add, which helped with position and balance for me, and helped stabilize my lower leg:

Think about getting your weight into your heels by pushing your knees down and back towards them. I've found that helped with so many things!

-Allows you to get your heels down without bracing and having your leg come forward
-Keeps the inside of your calf stable against the horse, instead of pinching with the knee
-Gets your leg under you in the correct alignment
-Encourages using the backs of your thighs as a stabilizing extension of your seat.
-Discourages gripping inward with knees and thighs, which only creates tension and pops you out of the saddle.

Just by keeping this in mind, I was able to improve my seat a lot, and my posting trot, too! I had previously been pushing off the stirrups too much. By thinking of using my leg this way instead, I was pushing down into my heels, like I should be.
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Can you stand up and remain standing at the walk? Can you hold a two point at the trot? Trying those things will help you find your balance point. This can be different in various saddles and on different horses.


I saw this exercise asked about in another thread. (standing in the stirrups and remain standing at the walk) Many had never heard of this exercise. I have been asked to do this exercise in my lessons. It's been explained that this exercise is used to increase strength and balance. If most riding (if not all) is done with the seat or in 2 point; how does balancing while standing up in the stirrups help? I'm not being rhetorical or anything, I really would like to understand the purpose.
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I tend to just look here, on this part of the forum, but must comment on your vid. That horse looks VERY uncomfortable, quite possibly lame. I would ensure she's sound or treat her to become so, and not ride if the horse is lame/hurting. I would also have the saddle checked out, ensure it fits *comfortably* or don't ride in it.

Perhaps it's just your heavy hands though, that the horse is having such a hard time of - as you say you already appreciate it's bad that you use the reins for balance. I'd suggest you don't be afraid to take hold of the saddle or mane if you need extra security, rather than hanging off the reins, until you learn to have an independent seat. I also suggest that until you're at the point of being able to ride without using the reins inadvertently, that you consider riding in a halter, so you're not hurting the horse so much(& also training him to put up with it & ignore rein pressure).

Others are far better able to evaluate your riding otherwise, but suffice to say, when you're hanging onto the reins, causing the horse to go so uncomfortably with his head up & back, regardless of how good a rider you may be otherwise, you will find it difficult to sit to a horse who goes in that way.
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post #25 of 35 Old 04-29-2017, 06:01 AM Thread Starter
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She is an old sulky racing horse or whatever theyre called, and the way she is moving is what she picked up from that, getting her back uo and her head down is sadlly not possible at the time, she also has some issues with mud fever in the video which is causing some irritation in her hind legs so she is a bit uncomfortable although not hurt :)

The sadel SAT fine on her when I got her, but as shes been groweing bigger and gotten mucle, its starting to get a little small, Im going to try one of my other 3 sadels and see if one of the little bigger once work better on her until I can get one accustomed to her later this year :)
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I didnt know the saddle was to small :O Lucky I got 2 more, lol ;) Ill see if I can maybe use one of the other twos, I think their seet is a bit bigger :)

Thank you for the help <3
You need to ensure first & foremost that whatever saddle you use, fits HER comfortably & doesn't interfere with her shoulders, etc. Also that it's not too long for her.
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post #27 of 35 Old 05-04-2017, 05:37 AM Thread Starter
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I have 3 saddels in 3 different sizes, the one shes wearing is the smallest, and the sadels have been used on a horse simillar to her while growing muscles and such. She was in the video right before the switch to the next sadel that I can saw fitts her perfectlly right now! :) When she starts to outgrow this sadel, Ill give her the last sadel before she start to get to the point she needs to get, and at that point, I will create a custome sadel for her :)

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Um... Saddle fitting is indeed a... difficult subject, to be sure. That she's a mature horse but going to 'outgrow' the saddle & so just need 'bigger'(in what way?) sounds like you don't have a great idea about saddle fit I'm afraid. If it's about developing muscle for eg, that you're hoping she will 'outgrow' it, using a saddle that fits her now(atrophied, running with head in air & hollow back, or unfit) will very likely *prevent* her from being able to develop further, and may also damage what she has got further. Get a pro saddler/saddle fitter, to check/advise/adjust. Or a good bodyworker(sounds like she could need anyway) should also have a good idea about saddle fit & what she needs.
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She is in the middle of a process of gaining loads of both fat and muscle, so getting her a sadel that is specificlly fitted for her today would be idiotic as she would be a different horse in 2 months time, and need it refitted again. The sadel she got now fitts her well, and after this one doesnt, she will get the biggest sadel of the 3. That one she will most likelly be abel to have until shes at the point I want her before it gets to unfitted for her, and at that stage I will get a sadelfitter and fit one for her.

She is not hollow or head high due to the sadel, its how shes been tought to move. Shes a trotter :)

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getting her a sadel that is specificlly fitted for her today would be idiotic as ... The sadel she got now fitts her well,
Precisely my point - if you have a saddle that 'fits her well' now, you will be PREVENTING much if any further development! Quite probably even damaging her further, esp if she is not fit for riding. Therefore you will need a good saddler/bodyworker NOW, to show you how you might, for eg, use padding in such a way to have a saddle that will ALLOW development to fit her well enough now.

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She is not hollow or head high due to the sadel, its how shes been tought to move. Shes a trotter :)
I did not say she was NOW hollow from her saddle, but again, that she will be unable to develop a better way of going, better muscling if you use what fits her now.

Balance International is one website that has a heap of great info on better understanding saddle fit.
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