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post #1 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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Critique on Us, again :P

Hello! I'm back!
Recently me and my superman have been working very hard. I have now taught him to collect, it doesn't look fantastic but it's a start and he only learnt it within 1 hour.
I myself have worked on a lot of things, first of all, I am getting fitter and I'm loosing weight (yay!) second, I've got the hang of putting my shoulders back which has decreased the back pain by 100%. My thumbs are now facing up and Sam and I have bonded more :)
Here is a picture, I plan to get more by tomorrow afternoon :)
Thanks <3
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post #2 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 10:02 AM
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Relax everything. You look so good on the horse, and he is so handsome! Just relax everything. Let your arms hang from your shoulders, let your elbows move with the horse's mouth, let your hands be closed, but soft, look ahead with relaxed eyes, let your leg fall softly from your hip, and your foot be softly on the stirrup.
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post #3 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 10:44 AM
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^This is a pretty solid critique.

It's difficult to tell in this photo (because it's just a photo, and not a video) but you do look too tense.

The sensitivity of the internet baffles me.
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post #4 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 11:12 AM
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Yes, relax. Your arms are a bit stiff and set. You need to lift your hands to allow him to rise up more.

He also needs to go more forward, even at this walk. His front end is being held to hard, as seen in the "less" movement of his front legs as compared to his hind legs.

You want to help the horse lighten his front end. With hands so low, you are actually encouraging him to stay heavy on the forehand. I taught a clinic where this rider was having a terible time with her horse not wanting to move forward and you can see her trying to "hold" the horse's head down with her hand. (click to make the photo larger)

When I got on, I lifted my hands and went very soft with them (unlocking my shoulder and elbows so I could follow the horse's mouth consistently. Then I was able to get her to move willingly forward. She almost immediately moved into my hand and lightened up.

Overall, he is very attractive and looks like he is really trying to please you, which is three quarters of the battle. Ride him softer and more forward and you will see an improvement, I believe.

You two make a really nice team!

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post #5 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 06:03 PM
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First thing that caught my eye - your head is down. :)
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post #6 of 21 Old 04-01-2015, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks heaps guys :)
One reason my head was down is because I was watching him bend his neck, as its really the first time he has
When I usually ride, I focus on where I want to go and not down :)

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post #7 of 21 Old 04-06-2015, 10:43 PM Thread Starter
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Here is an update, I tried to relax as much as I could :)

I was looking sideways to my next destination.
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post #8 of 21 Old 04-08-2015, 10:40 PM
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The German riding pyramid goes like this:
Rhythm, relaxation, connection, impulsion, straightness, collection
This isn't meant to be rude, but I don't think you're asking for collection, rather connection.

Leg to hand not hand to leg. Push your horse to the bit, don't pull him back to it. In all the pictures except the one or two, he isn't tracking up with his hind legs, so I would say increase lower leg and lift hands slightly.

Now with that being said I love that you have pictures of him stretching over his back! It causes me to assume you are releasing properly, and searching for the bit when you drop him to the buckle. And, if this is something he is starting he doesn't have muscles to maintain so allowing him to come out of the contact/frame is totally ok!

The last thing I would say is that I would work on bringing your leg back, and more underneath you.

You're off to an awesome start and look like a great rider, I would love to hear your thoughts even if it's a disagreement :)
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post #9 of 21 Old 04-08-2015, 11:57 PM
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picture one:
horse is behind the leg, sucking back and being resentful

picture two:
rider gets more impulsion but gives away the reins, thus horse fall out the front. but, at least the neck is long.

picture three:

horse is stretching neck down but beginning to add back in some impulsion and lift of the back, and rider doing a nice job of allowing this.

picture four:
rider lifts horse's head back up to "collect" but loses impulsion as horse hangs back behind the bit in false collection , though very close . just a bit more relaxation and forward stretch and this would be a very nice picture.

picture five:
gaining back impulsion, horse more confident about stretching down . nice.

picture six:
very nice training level trot with horse in natural carriage, nice stride and with forward attitude to ears and body. rider sitting up nicely.

picture seven:

very sweet halt!

if you did not have such a chair seat position, throughout, all these photos would look , and work, better. but, improvement is happening!
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post #10 of 21 Old 04-09-2015, 12:23 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks heaps guys, as you may know, I am self taught so I am not very clear on some terms like "behind the leg", "behind the bit" and terms like that, can someone fill me in?

I was watching a video where they said that dropping the head is good because it engages and works muscles that normal riding wouldn't. :)

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