Do what you can... - Page 2 - The Horse Forum
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 20 Old 05-02-2015, 04:04 AM
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 47,508
• Horses: 2
her issue is not so much MAKING a video into a presentable form, but rather TAKING the video, without someone there to hold the camera.
tinyliny is online now  
post #12 of 20 Old 05-02-2015, 10:19 PM
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 169
• Horses: 0
Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
her issue is not so much MAKING a video into a presentable form, but rather TAKING the video, without someone there to hold the camera.
Tripod. Get the camera up as high as you can, horizontal, and facing away from the light.
ojzab likes this.
Cindyg is offline  
post #13 of 20 Old 05-02-2015, 11:22 PM Thread Starter
Green Broke
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Mid Northern TN
Posts: 2,514
• Horses: 2
I will need editing software- will look into Movie Maker. Trying to do this by myself means there will probably be plenty of time I am out of frame that needs to be clipped out. In other good news, I will be able to borrow a saddle I like much better than my own and that I don't feel like I have to *fight* while I am riding in it. Only a poor craftsman blames his tools, but a good craftsman uses the right tool for the job. Hopefully now all the mistakes, strike that, Things To Improve, will be clear so I can work on them!

One thing that I know needs work and I don't know HOW to work on is my horse taking contact. We just rode 18.5 miles today and had contact for about 300m of that. When I started riding him he was terrible about head-tossing with ANY contact and my hands were worse than they are now, so I trained him mostly on a loose rein to avoid gigging him unintentionally. So now, I can give him all the rein in the world and he doesn't *take it*. He's just like, "Oh, okay, loose rein time now, lalalala." He doesn't run off or change gaits or anything bad, he just doesn't seek contact at all.

During our normal riding (trail and conditioning rides), going from loose rein to contact (which is very light contact by dressage standards, or at least the dressage horses I know) is the equivalent to a half-halt for him. He knows I'm about to ask him to do something, so he noticeably gathers himself and looks for a cue.

In the arena, well... as was said, he just sorta goes through the motions. He doesn't seem to fight contact, but he doesn't look for it either, so I'm not sure where to go from there. The half-halts with the t/c transitions every 10 strides definitely got his attention and he was responding well. We both worked hard on that one! He stretched down at the end (I am sure his back was tired), but it wasn't the nice smooth stretch I've felt from trained horses leaning into the bit, it was closer to a rude snatching. I wanted him to stretch after the good effort he gave me, but we have to work on that- being a mule's father is not on the 'allowed list' of activities.
Sharpie is offline  
post #14 of 20 Old 05-03-2015, 12:44 AM
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cariboo, British Columbia
Posts: 13,917
• Horses: 3
Sharpie, you're a decent rider, because.....your riding reminds me of me, lol! Yes, you need to relax your back, you need to stop working so hard posting, let the horse's rhythm do more of work and let your elbows get heavier. The video is hard to watch though so I can't comment on the saddle, but does it feel "sweet" to you?

I am not here to promote anythingNo, that's not true, I am here to promote everything equestrian and everyone enjoying horses!
waresbear is offline  
post #15 of 20 Old 05-09-2015, 11:21 PM
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 7,381
• Horses: 0
Your riding is not bad, but your horse is stiff, and nobody can ride a stiff horse well.

I can tell you what I was taught to do by my dressage trainer, if I can describe it.....

She would have me walk in a small spiral, until it was pretty close to turn on the forehand. Then exert a little more pull on the inside rein, and push the hindquarters out. When the horse drops his nose a bit, and steps under with the inside leg, give a little, and ask for forward, with easy contact. If the head goes up and out, start again.
The emphasis is on the hind leg stepping under, but we used the head as the signal that he was not stepping under.

Hope this helps. I know I have not explained it very well.
Skyseternalangel likes this.
greentree is offline  
post #16 of 20 Old 06-09-2015, 10:17 PM
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southeast
Posts: 8,688
• Horses: 0
Originally Posted by Sharpie View Post
I am almost terrified to even watch videos or see pictures of myself riding. It took me an hour to gather the wherewithal to watch this video a friend took. It is not very high quality. So, questions:

1. Is there a reasonable way to get decent video by yourself? I have a camera that takes decent video, but I would have to take it out as a special session and somehow set it up and have it run while I am riding. Help me so I can bring you steady and high quality footage. ;) I was thinking that maybe if I only use the far end of this small ring, at a non-shadowy part of the day, it might work okay?

2. I know my posting seems exaggerated. I think part of it is because my stirrups seem too far forward and I feel like I am fighting that whenever I ride. Any tips for helping improve that, short of a new saddle (currently riding in an older Wintec Endurance saddle)? Is it just poor muscle memory and form on my part, or likely something else?

3. On a scale of 1 (dragging himself around) to 10 (well engaged), where are we on using his rear? This video clip was actually a pretty good showing of our 'average' performance... he wasn't being bad, but it certainly wasn't one of the times where I was thrilled about how well he did either. Got a bit of evasion and a bit of the wrong lead, both of which we're working on. Obviously the quality is not good enough for anything really fine or detailed, just looking for a general idea of where we're 'starting' from this spring as we get back into work.

Hi. I'm not going to adress Q-1 because others have already done so.

Q-2 tips to improve your posting.

a) get your feet out of the stirrups and cross them over the horse's neck in front of the withers. This will allow you to post without swinging your stirrups to get up.
b) The only thing that should be moving when you post is your rear. Lift your rear towards your hands, not your whole body.
c) keep your hands still

Q-3 Is the horse's hindquarters engaged? No, they are not engaged at all. What i see is:
a) a horse afraid of cantering because the rider is bracing with her hands and bouncing on his back. He charges into the canter because of the pain he knows is coming. If I did this on my horse he would buck me off, and I would deserve it.
b) I also see a very willing horse, that is trying to be a good boy.

I am hoping you have read this far, and I am not saying these thing to be mean, but please get someone to help you. If this is the way you usually ride, you need to stop riding any faster than a walk until you can get good instruction. Please.

I am going to search for a video of what rising trot and canter should look like, ok? BRB.
AnitaAnne is offline  
post #17 of 20 Old 06-09-2015, 10:24 PM
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southeast
Posts: 8,688
• Horses: 0
AnitaAnne is offline  
post #18 of 20 Old 06-09-2015, 10:37 PM
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southeast
Posts: 8,688
• Horses: 0
Some canter instruction, with t/c transitions

Last edited by AnitaAnne; 06-09-2015 at 10:38 PM. Reason: needed link
AnitaAnne is offline  
post #19 of 20 Old 06-09-2015, 10:55 PM
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southeast
Posts: 8,688
• Horses: 0
This one is a Really good video.

Keep in mind when you watch this, the horse in the video has a much bigger canter than yours does, so the rider's movement is bigger too. The horse is tired and leaning on the bit somewhat, which is why she is strung out a bit.
AnitaAnne is offline  
post #20 of 20 Old 06-17-2015, 02:29 PM
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 17,077
• Horses: 1
You're being too hard on yourself! You are not a terrible rider, you actually have a lot of potential!

I'll post more later, when I'm not at work :)

"Strength is the ability to use a muscle without tension"
Skyseternalangel is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome