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post #41 of 59 Old 04-29-2015, 04:51 PM Thread Starter
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I will ask for one. Yes, I have ridden a LOT of different horses. I have been a working student at barns for about the past three years, and I am used to riding a different horse almost every time. I used to be sketchy, but anymore I am fine. New horse? New chance to learn more and better myself. Is how I look at it now.
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working without stirrups and without reins is always good for your seat and balance because you can focus on sitting deep and tall
For the rest of it - you need to find a saddle that will allow you to shorten your stirrups enough to do a correct posting trot before you can really progress in that direction
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Here are new photos. This is me riding in MY saddle, and on a horse I like riding much more. This is a horse I am showing this year. I do Intro A dressage on the 13th on her. Critique away. She is trotting in all of the photos.
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your leg seems to drape down a bit better, though I wish that someday you can find a saddle with a very short flap. your stirrup is just barely short enough for you to work well.

as for some things that you can do to correct your body position, and these are the things we pretty much all work on . . .

don't let your lower back roll forward like that. too much rolling foward puts you in a "weak" position. on top of that, you need to get your elbows back at your sides, so that your upper arm falls as vertical as possible. keep your thumbes on top, on top, , on top! again, allowing the lower arm to roll over , with a flat, horizontal hand position, encourage the elbow to come out, and this is a weak position.

here's a couple of things to help you imagin good hand position. think of your thumbs as being a little "roof" on the top of your bent fingers, which close softly to form the "house" while your thumb, on top , is also bent to form a roof.

the tip of your thumb should point, just like a lazer, at the bit rings. laser, laser laser to that bit, right down from the peak of your thumb roof, out the tips. if the roof tips to the side, it will fall off of the house! keep it on top!

and, when you've got a nice steady contact, with your thumbs up and elbows in, you can give a signal to the hrose by mearly tightening your forearm and kind of "pinching" your elbow, with the firmed forearm muscles, against your side. you dont' need more than that in many cases. try it.
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your leg seems to drape down a bit better, though I wish that someday you can find a saddle with a very short flap. your stirrup is just barely short enough for you to work well.

One day, I plan to have a saddle custom done to me and my personal horse when I can afford it. I think that is going to be the only way in the long run that I get one that really fits my leg. I actually have my stirrups as short as I can go on these leathers. My instructor wanted me to punch a hole between this and one hole longer, and drop them a half hole down from where they are in this photo. But I don't know about that.. I feel like that would be too long, and again I would be reaching too much.

as for some things that you can do to correct your body position, and these are the things we pretty much all work on . . .

don't let your lower back roll forward like that. too much rolling foward puts you in a "weak" position. on top of that, you need to get your elbows back at your sides, so that your upper arm falls as vertical as possible. keep your thumbes on top, on top, , on top! again, allowing the lower arm to roll over , with a flat, horizontal hand position, encourage the elbow to come out, and this is a weak position.

Yes, yes. I kept stopping and rolling my seat back under me. I am very aware of the arm issue, it drives me nuts along with me rolling my seat forward. I wish I knew why I did this. I will continue to remind myself of these things.

here's a couple of things to help you imagin good hand position. think of your thumbs as being a little "roof" on the top of your bent fingers, which close softly to form the "house" while your thumb, on top , is also bent to form a roof.

the tip of your thumb should point, just like a lazer, at the bit rings. laser, laser laser to that bit, right down from the peak of your thumb roof, out the tips. if the roof tips to the side, it will fall off of the house! keep it on top!

and, when you've got a nice steady contact, with your thumbs up and elbows in, you can give a signal to the hrose by mearly tightening your forearm and kind of "pinching" your elbow, with the firmed forearm muscles, against your side. you dont' need more than that in many cases. try it.

That description really just clicked for me so much. Thank you!! I am going to use that now to remind myself. Wow, I wish someone would have explained it like that before. Thank you!
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I took tons of lessons where my instructor kept yelling "keep your elbows in" "keep your elbows in!". I got so tired of the big lecture, I said, "just tell me "Elbows!"and I'll know what you are talking about.

it takes many repittions to form a new habit. and the giving signals through the contraction of the forearm muscles, and the pinching of the arm agains the side was through a lesson. the teacher kept saying, "do like this" and she'd show me. but, without me knowing EXACTLY which muscles she was tightening, I could not "do like her". I had to literally lay my hand on her arm, in varying spots, as she held a pretend rein as if she was doing a half halt. I could feel the muscles in her foreaarm contract, and then I could feel the muscles in the armpit area (as if pinching a million dollar bill under your arm pit!). then I could see how this sort of firming of the arm is often all the horse needs to come into good connection with the bit , and the firming of the upper body also encourages that slight hesitation, and rebalanceing that comes with a 'half halt'. this might feel odd now, but it will fit into the puzzle in a while.
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On top of all the lovely and accurate things Tiny suggests I try to remember to correct my position holistically as I go- So if you are physically too forward (which you are) instead of working on all the little factors (which you still need to do) Take a deep breath and close your leg- creating a little more freedom in your seat (your horse should not speed up- it is not a bump...its almost a half halt) tip your hips back and let your upper body and arms come backwards in alignment with your seat (pelvic bone and two seat-bones) now settled in following your horse's motion. You should feel as though you are gathering your body together and straightening. It's basically a human half-halt. You have to set up Your frame before you can be effective on your horse's
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just out of curiousity, what do you mean by "close your leg" ? do you mean put it more firmly on the horse? like take a straight, all the way down your leg grip?

because people always say "close your hip" and that means something totally different.

I wish all horse riders spoke the same "language"!
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just out of curiousity, what do you mean by "close your leg" ? do you mean put it more firmly on the horse? like take a straight, all the way down your leg grip?

because people always say "close your hip" and that means something totally different.

I wish all horse riders spoke the same "language"!
Not straight....and not a grip either. think of it as a 'leg hug' mold your leg to the side of the horse so you can feel the movement of the rib cage as the horse goes- it should not be so tight that it gives a stopping aid- but it should be there so if you needed to you could. It won't close your hip. It should open it and free up your seat to follow the motion...that you are now feeling in your leg. I think a lot of riders just let their legs get carried by the stirrup and this is to kinda help correct the aforementioned straightness where the force of the stride is sent down through the leg instead of up through the core of the rider.

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Ok. I like that "leg hug".

To me I think of it more as my leg getting longer , but from the hip, so dropping from the hip, rather than pushing down from the knee or heel.
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