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post #1 of 11 Old 05-25-2017, 08:00 AM Thread Starter
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Jumping Critique

Hi everyone.

My horse Darcy used to be a high level eventer but he hasn't done much in the way of jumping for over 2 years. Last weekend we tried out our first showjumping course at Pony Club.

I don't have much experience yet in the way of jumping but I am under instruction and improving my riding a lot each time. I understand that I do pop up a bit in anticipation of the jump and that I rise a bit too much out of the saddle; but I'm working on it! I also realise that my direction and ability to adjust Darcy's strides isn't amazing yet either.

I was wondering if I could please have a general critique of my position over the jump and how I set Darcy up for the jump as well. I really want to make my seat the best it can be!

Thank you!

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-25-2017, 08:23 AM
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Stirrpus need to be at least 2-3 holes shorter. He is running at the fences and you're are lucky he is experienced enough to save your butt over them. Slow down. Grab mane over the fences so you are not ripping their face off.

I question your quality of instruction.

Isnt this the horse with the old tendon injury you said shouldn't jump?
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post #3 of 11 Old 05-25-2017, 09:52 AM
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I think the above critique is a little harsh...
I agree with the comment about stirrups needing to be shorter, but nowhere did I see you 'ripping his face off' - in fact it looked to me like you were already using his neck/mane to help balance yourself to avoid pulling on the reins over the jump.

Shortening you stirrups will make a big difference. They need to be short enough that you can comfortably get your heel down, as this is your 'anchor' over the fence. Having them shorter will also allow you to take your weight into your thigh and fold at your hips rather than standing in the stirrups - you recognise this already as you mentioned 'popping up' over the fence. Remember as you jump, the action should be as if you're pushing your bum back out of the back of saddle and folding at the hips, rather than standing straight up in your stirrups. I dont think your hands are bad at this stage - developing a good release takes time and practise and feel, and you horse doesnt need to move his head tonnes at this height anyway- just make some effort to bring your hands forward up his neck. Shortening your stirrups and developing your position will make you more secure so you don't have to balance on his neck.

As far as setting him up, he is rushing a little but still seems to keep a pretty good rhythm. The reason he is rushing could be because you aren't checking your canter lead after you land, so you're steering him while on the wrong lead which will unbalance him and make him rush. If you're unsure of your leads, check him back to trot after each jump just to make sure he can rebalance and steady himself. Again, a feel for the leads takes practise.

Jumping a course is tricky and it looks like you're making a good start on a lovely little horse :)

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post #4 of 11 Old 05-25-2017, 11:18 AM
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I agree with the stirrup length - you'd find it a lot easier if you put them up a hole or two, they look long even for general purpose English riding
I didn't think you were pulling on his face though using a handful of mane or a neck strap is a good idea.
I would describe his gait as 'running' simply because he's got no elevation about him which means he might be going forwards but its without true impulsion so he's 'flat' and skimming over the jumps rather than making a nice 'arc' shape. It's also why he's falling back into trot instead of maintaining a steady rhythmic canter.
I think you need to work more on his basics and gridwork.

Just winging it is not a plan
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post #5 of 11 Old 05-25-2017, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for your feedback Celeste and Jaydee.

I did have my stirrups quite long and I didn't even realise until you mentioned it. No wonder it was tricky to keep my weight down!

I'll practice folding at my hips more when I jump next and I'll try to post our progress up if I can. As far as Darcy rushing, we have improved a lot on this and he was WAY faster when we first tried. I'm working on body half halting him as we go to slow him up a bit and it is working.

Celeste, do you mean checking that he is leading with his inside leg? I wasn't aware that I had to check this as I landed but I'll make sure to do it next time! He also struggles a bit leading with the correct lead when we are on the right hand but he is learning that he can do it now.

Thank you again and I'll keep working on it! :)
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agree with stirrup length comments. I thought, given all else, that your hand was pretty steady. and you look up real well. your horse looks like he might be a bit uncomfortable in his hocks, but if you only plan to do small jumps, I think you two are a cute pair with a ton of potential. keep up the good work!
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post #7 of 11 Old 05-26-2017, 10:45 AM
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Celeste, do you mean checking that he is leading with his inside leg? I wasn't aware that I had to check this as I landed but I'll make sure to do it next time! He also struggles a bit leading with the correct lead when we are on the right hand but he is learning that he can do it now.
Yep that's the one! It's definitely something that is important for their balance, and you need to start setting them up for the next jump as soon as you land. At this stage it doesn't matter hugely if he lands correctly or not, but you want to make sure he's on the right lead before you do any sharp turns towards the next jump. As you get more experienced you can start asking him to land on the lead you want but you have to be confident in getting the correct lead in both directions first.

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Thank you Tinyliny. I certainly don't plan for us to ever go any higher than about 50-60cm (barrel height). I love jumping on him and he enjoys it too! :)
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Thank you Celeste. That really clears things up for me. Would I ask for the correct lead over the jump as I would if I was cantering on the ground or asking for a flying change?

We are working on his right side and he is getting it more often now. We have also done some pole bending at a canter and he does a flying change each time; so he can do them (even though he doesn't think he can!).

I'll keep working on it!
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post #10 of 11 Old 05-29-2017, 11:00 AM
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Yes on shortening the stirrups.

It is very hard to judge equitation on small jumps, like these, as they don't require much on the rider's part. That said, try to help your horse more. Take the time to trot after the fence and change leads, if he lands in the wrong lead. It will help the horse stay balanced and make better turns and better approaches to the fence. This helps both of you and will give you a better chance at having a better position.

I did see the beginning of someone starting to pivot on your knee, tipping forward more than flexing from the hip. let go with the knee and try to keep contact with the inside of your upper calf. This allows you to sink into your stirrups and wrap your leg around the horse giving you much more security.

It is a bit early for a course, IMO. I would have put you on one fence, maybe two, and have you learn how to cue your horse for landing on the correct lead, or do quick balanced simple changes before I gave you lots of turns. But then, that's me.......
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