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post #1 of 10 Old 06-09-2014, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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Jumping Critique Pictues and Video

My dad came to me lesson on Saturday and took some pictures and videos of me jumping, so I thought I would put some here for critique. I don't jump very consistently (just whenever I can afford a lesson) so I haven't really practiced very much. In these pictures I am jumping 2', and the video is over 2'3". The picture on the flat is approaching a jump, just a few strides out. This is only the second time I have jumped up to 2'3" and I am a nervous rider while jumping, so I was pretty nervous over these. I can tell that I am jumping ahead and need to work on that as well as not sitting back down in the saddle so early. Does anyone see other things that I should concentrate on?
Also, the mare is not mine. My mare is not allowed to jump anymore (navicular) so my friend lets me ride her mare for lessons. She is a draft/Tb/warmblood cross.
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It looks pretty good, especially for a less confident jumper, perhaps in the last photo and video you seem a little tense approaching the jump, and from personal experience it's always hard riding in a half seat if you're tense through your back and shoulders.
As far as your jumping position is concerned, you are standing up in the stirrups, which throws your center of balance forward and infront of your horse, and as a result, your leg swings a little too far back (see second picture). This may be why you are sitting back a little early, as you are slightly unbalanced. In your two point, instead of simply standing in your stirrups and leaning forward, push your bum back out of the saddle, so you are lower down on the horse. Your bum should be further back than it usually is when riding. I also think that as you are standing up too high and leaning too far forward, you look a bit like you are using your hands to balance yourself in the second picture. When you push your bum out behind you, stretch your hands out slightly infront of you as well, and balance from your knees and thighs instead.
The key is to keep your balance central to your horses balance, and will lead to a cleaner jump. Remember you heels are your shock absorbers, so try to avoid too much tension through the leg and ankle.
You're doing really well, hope this helps :) good pics by the way, and a lovely horse!
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post #3 of 10 Old 06-09-2014, 07:40 PM
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celeste explained it very well. I could see what she was talking about, by the standing rigidly on your stirrups and not "folding" at the waist, but I did not know how to put it into words.
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I'm also seeing the standing in your stirrups. Make sure you are really sinking your weight in your heels. Imagine someone tying bags of lead to your ankles, and let them sink way down with every stride. This jump isn't very big, but you could stand to fold at the waist more. Imagine, instead of getting up off his back as much, just sinking into your heels and bending at the waist, letting your hands go forward in a nice release. You won't need much bend, but it will break your habit of standing as you won't have the balance to bend if you're just standing up.

I like your eyes, how they stay up. Confidence comes with practice and a good horse. If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed :) doing well, I like the mare you are riding as well, she seems like a gentle girl. Good job!

Edit: so basically I just restated the other Celeste, oops!
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Besides what the previous posters have already pointed out, I only noticed one other thing. It's not major, just a little detail that could help: you ride with piano hands ("puppy-pawed") most of the time. That means your thumbs aren't pointing up, they're facing each other... hard to explain; sorry. Besides that, good job, and I wish you luck.

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I agree with the "standing in the stirrups" comment. You need to relax your lags and allow your seat to move further back over your saddle. You are jumping ahead of your horse too much. Relax those knees!! Allow them to absorb the movement and let your seat move back over the middle of the saddle to maintain your flow with the horse's movement.

I'll use some of my photos to illustrate. Click on the photos for a bigger view.

See how much further my seat is over the saddle?



Even though my ankles are not as flexible as I would like (I've broken both of them and they do not flex too well), I am in good balance over the horse. If I were in this same position with my feet on the ground, I would still be balanced. I would neither fall forward or backwards. That is an important part of flowing with the horse.

Todays reliance on the hated crest release has taught rider to perch on their hands for balance and never learn to be properly balanced on the horse, IMO.


Here I am over a much bigger jump. It looks like I am jumping ahead of the horse, but the question is...would I be balanced if my feet were on the ground? Would I topple forward or backward? If I was too much further back in the saddle, at this MOMENT, I would be behind the movement and interfering with the horse's flow over the jump.



So, different jumps demand different positions. Take photos of yourself, and ask....am I balanced? Work on freeing yourself from balancing on your hands and strengthening your lower leg position, and you will improve rapidly.
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Thank you to everyone for the advice! Allison Finch, those pictures are very helpful. Now I can't wait for an opportunity to jump again to start working on not standing in my stirrups.
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Thank you to everyone for the advice! Allison Finch, those pictures are very helpful. Now I can't wait for an opportunity to jump again to start working on not standing in my stirrups.
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As you can see, I am NOT a hunter rider. I ride event horses and jumpers. I don't have the ultra hollow back and perch on a horse. I believe form follows function and there is a reason hunter courses are neither big or difficult. I'm zipping up my flame suit now.....

I suspect you may have a coach who keeps saying "arch your back!!" This teaches people to maintain a RIGID back that cannot be fluid enough to be soft over the fence.
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As you can see, I am NOT a hunter rider. I ride event horses and jumpers. I don't have the ultra hollow back and perch on a horse. I believe form follows function and there is a reason hunter courses are neither big or difficult. I'm zipping up my flame suit now.....

I suspect you may have a coach who keeps saying "arch your back!!" This teaches people to maintain a RIGID back that cannot be fluid enough to be soft over the fence.
She asks me to pull my shoulders back, but she doesn't seem to encourage me to have too rigid of a back. I have a tendency to curl up into a ball while jumping, so I've been trying to flatten my back out a bit.
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Ms. Finch, I would absolutely love the opportunity to take just one lesson from you. Every critique I see from you is so thorough and helpful. Sorry to highjack the thread, just wanted to mention my appreciation for you!

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