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post #11 of 15 Old 05-21-2018, 12:46 PM
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PLEASE get a decent trainer..... so many red flags yet again.
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post #12 of 15 Old 05-21-2018, 12:51 PM
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You need a proper trainer because you need someone on the ground that's shouting out to you - you have no clue what you look like so using videos isn't really going to help
You are ahead of the action - common fault in beginners when they approach a fence in 2 Point. They should already be in the correct position but they still go even further forwards and that has a knock on effect on everything else
Your back is hollow right up into your neck. That also means you're probably very tense and its why your elbows are pushed back
Your arms are fixed and rigid with those 'T-Rex elbows'
The crest release (holding on to the mane) is OK for beginners but its become like a plague, it should be abandoned once the rider feels balance and independent.
Your feet look as if they're too far into the stirrups

Just winging it is not a plan
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post #13 of 15 Old 05-21-2018, 01:26 PM
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@SteadyOn is that first pic Denny? Who ever that looks gorgeous stable, balanced, Love it.
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post #14 of 15 Old 05-21-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse View Post
@SteadyOn is that first pic Denny? Who ever that looks gorgeous stable, balanced, Love it.
Yep, that's Denny! He did a great post showing the evolution of his jumping position. I love his Tamarack Hill Farm Facebook page. Always new things to learn, and he has a wicked sense of humour, too.

QUOTE from article written by Denny Emerson
'Jumping position is about angles. I try never to use "bad" photos of other riders to illustrate points. Luckily, I have plenty of bad ones of myself to use.
When a rider is in good form over a fence, the rider resembles a question mark. Start by looking at the leg of the rider. From the knee to the heel, which should be down, there should be pretty much a straight line perpendicular to the ground. You will notice that in the first 4 photos of me on Cat, 50 years ago, that is far from the case, especially because my stirrups were much too long, whereas in the following 10 photos, my leg is pretty consistently beneath me, and on the side of the horse, just behind the girth.
This is the "stem" of the question mark shape. Now what? As the horse comes up, the rider "lets" his hips go back, while raising his chin.. In other words, it is not by lunging forward with my upper body, with a pinched knee, as shown in the 4 bad photos, that creates balance, but by having my upper body go forward as a by-product of my hips going back.
Then, as that is happening, heels down, leg under, hips back, chin up, back flat, the riders arms and hands follow the mouth of the horse in a straight line toward the bit, to give the horse "a place to go" in the air with his head and neck.
So 3 closed angles in the air over the jump---Heel, hip, knee.
And 3 open angles, shoulder, elbow, chin (up from body)
What I used to do was to push on my too long stirrups, and raise my body, which then toppled forward and down, with my lower leg swinging back.
As I studied riders with superior form---Steinkraus, Traurig, Plumb, Chapot-----and attempted to copy them, I became more orthodox.
If you want to ride over fences in better form, a good first step is to find photos of excellent technicians that you wish to emulate. In 2018, maybe Ward, Madden are a couple you admire.
Place photos of yourself beside them. See what you need to change to "become" them.
Practice the small pieces, one by one, repeat, repeat.
It IS possible, but the key is to first know what to change, and how to change, so you will want a coach who knows the difference to guide you through this.'

Last edited by jaydee; 05-22-2018 at 11:58 AM. Reason: Replaced FB link (as per HF rules) with actual article
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post #15 of 15 Old 05-21-2018, 08:42 PM
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Just a few tips I got from my trainer -

Keep your bottom over the seat of the saddle, it appears to be up by the withers of the horse. I would also recommend that you put your hands up a bit higher on your horse's neck, and make sure your elbows aren't pointing out on your sides. It looks like your hands are a bit underneath your self, so get them out more. By the way, your horse is very pretty :P
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