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post #11 of 18 Old 09-07-2014, 10:37 PM
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You two are adorable!

First, before you trot, she needs to learn to stretch into the contact. You get a light, consistent contact, with your arms and shoulders RELXEd and following her head, and then give JUST a SMIDGE when you start to feel her neck lengthen. Repeat until this stretching is consistent. Change directions a lot, don't ever pull, but teach her.

Then work on the same at trot, then canter. Do not allow her to look around, keep her focused on you.

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You two are adorable!

First, before you trot, she needs to learn to stretch into the contact. You get a light, consistent contact, with your arms and shoulders RELXEd and following her head, and then give JUST a SMIDGE when you start to feel her neck lengthen. Repeat until this stretching is consistent. Change directions a lot, don't ever pull, but teach her.

Then work on the same at trot, then canter. Do not allow her to look around, keep her focused on you.

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Thank you!

I definitely agree I need to spend more time in the walk! Always feel the need to trot trot trot when I still need to get some of the basics down. After a long trail ride in the past I've noticed that she reaches down in the bit very nicely. Would like to have that more consistently.

I'm hoping a switch in bit from a loose-ring to a eggbutt will help us both with stability. Anyone had an success with this? I could easily be wrong and it might not make that big of a difference, but I'm thinking neither of us can get a good feel with me constantly fiddling with my hands and her mouthing a lot. Want to give it a shot.

I appreciate you input greentree!

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Once she understands the stretch to the contact, a lot of the mouthing may go away. My youngest purebred was a chewer until she relaxed and got the hang of it. I don't think loose ring vs eggbutt will make much difference, if you don't change the mouthpiece.

You are most welcome! I have not had a chance to call Tami about the trainer.
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Wanted to take a short video of us riding outside of a lesson in a more comfortable setting. Less tense, still needs lots of work. Did this at a sitting trot with loose rein... no fighting or mouthing!

tinyliny took your advice of keeping my upper body over my hips, and riding my own hips, and it helps me out! I'm one of those people who need a good mental image.

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post #15 of 18 Old 09-10-2014, 12:20 AM
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oh, me too, about being one who needs an image. I have tons of them that I use!!! but the "ride your own pelvis" helps me a lot. I sometimes link that with thinking of my elbows as being a bit like a "frame" that hangs down , ourside of my hips, and my pelvis floats under the "protection" of those heavy elbows. of course, in reality, my elbows dont' reach to my hips, but thinking of them as like heavy ropes, coming off of a a "maypole" (my spine) give my upper body that weight and solidity that helps it to sit down over the lower body.

really good riders will have a very soft, loose lower body, and a rather firm, strong upper body. it just does't LOOK that way.

another thing, I sometimes think of my collarbone as "leading" . You don't want to push your tummy out, nor raise your ribcage, as some peole do, becuase it makes you pooch your tummy out and roll your lower back forward and you get the opposite of the "prawn" curl. you have a teensy bit of that, when I say you are riding on your fork a bit. I kid of wonder if that saddle seat isn't a bit small for you . . .

anyway, yoiu look so happy and relaxed in that second video and sitting the trot nicely. if you had a bit less outward turn of the lower leg, it might be able to kind of flex a bit with the movement of the trot. if you watch dressage riders who are sitting the trot, you'll see a relaxed leg isn't still. it moves in the sens that it is like a spring; absorbing some of the motion.

all in all, you ride very nicely and have a sweet and happy equine partner. you'll do well!
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oh, me too, about being one who needs an image. I have tons of them that I use!!! but the "ride your own pelvis" helps me a lot. I sometimes link that with thinking of my elbows as being a bit like a "frame" that hangs down , ourside of my hips, and my pelvis floats under the "protection" of those heavy elbows. of course, in reality, my elbows dont' reach to my hips, but thinking of them as like heavy ropes, coming off of a a "maypole" (my spine) give my upper body that weight and solidity that helps it to sit down over the lower body.

really good riders will have a very soft, loose lower body, and a rather firm, strong upper body. it just does't LOOK that way.

another thing, I sometimes think of my collarbone as "leading" . You don't want to push your tummy out, nor raise your ribcage, as some peole do, becuase it makes you pooch your tummy out and roll your lower back forward and you get the opposite of the "prawn" curl. you have a teensy bit of that, when I say you are riding on your fork a bit. I kid of wonder if that saddle seat isn't a bit small for you . . .

anyway, yoiu look so happy and relaxed in that second video and sitting the trot nicely. if you had a bit less outward turn of the lower leg, it might be able to kind of flex a bit with the movement of the trot. if you watch dressage riders who are sitting the trot, you'll see a relaxed leg isn't still. it moves in the sens that it is like a spring; absorbing some of the motion.

all in all, you ride very nicely and have a sweet and happy equine partner. you'll do well!
I forget about my leg. They are definitely pretty stiff. If I become nervous my first response is to tense them up even more and stick them out. I guess I'm trying to put the brakes on or am a bit scared of legging my horse on too much! Also need to work on my feet pointing out. Every instructor I've had has told me they point outward too much. As another poster said earlier in the post, I'd be able to use my legs more effectively if they point more forward. That's going to be a big concentrating point of mine.

The saddle is a bit too small for me, but so comfy and fits my horse great! It's a Specialized Saddle. I boarded my horse at their stable and they were kind enough to let me use another model of theirs that fit me better, but wasn't for sale (that one was my favorite saddle off all time... it had black and red leather )I wound up buying this one since they were selling it and I wanted something I was sure would fit my horse. I'm hoping to get a Wintec 2000 within the next two months, hopefully it will be better to use for schooling and keep the Specialized for the trail. Rode in a 17.5" Wintec 2000 and found it very comfy. Had a nice but older Stubben, but the wither clearance wasn't right for my horse and my upper leg was too long for it. Liked it a lot though.

I appreciate your input tinyliny!

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What kind of saddle is a specialized ?
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Specialized are endurance saddles. This is the model I have.



They have a fit system that can be made to fit many different types of horses so it fits mine great, is light, and comfy. I can ride all day in it, and the fleece seat that I have on mine makes things even better . I think that's its primary function given you'll be spending miles in it. Because of that, an all purpose saddle might be better for schooling. It puts me in a different position.

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