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post #1 of 22 Old 02-04-2018, 12:27 AM Thread Starter
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poor quality dressage. critique anyway?

Sorry about the low quality video. working on getting a better filming option. this was taken about 2ish weeks ago at the end of the ride. Recently we had the chiropractor out and owing to poor saddle fit (shame on me) we're presently relegated to bareback. (and shocker of shocker hes going a million times better, now if only my thighs and abs can take schooling the extensions and simple changes we'll be good to go)

please critique (as much as youre able)

seat and position
movement and quality
alignment (i know its hard to see)

would love tips on: increasing throughness, clarity and responsiveness to a half halt, convincing him that my leg does not mean this is the kentucky derby.

Jumping videos:
I am not a jumper.
tips would be great though. we wont be jumping anytime soon again owing to a lack of fitting tack (sigh!)


btw- is anybody interested in buying a MW courbette bernina jr. Its breaking my heart but it must go.
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He is a very nice horse and I think you have a good thing going on. He has a nice trot and canter, but I would like the walk bigger and for that you would need to have your elbows more flexible, see here

What is your half halt exactly?

With forward horses you have to do more slow work, lots of halt-walk-trot transitions + rein back to make them really sit back, anticipate the downward transitions and learn that they can't just run.
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Our half halt is a little leg on the barrel to get him to pick his back up, then rolling my abs back and lifting my hips to make space for his forehand to elevate, and if needed a little softening with the reins to get him to round.

hes pretty strung out on the turn on the haunches, the chiro says he was protecting himself quite a lot by hollowing his back, and halt and slow work is always the worst for him at that. he was really good on thursday, so im hoping thats all it took was a little massage and adjustment and condemning me to sell my favorite saddle of all time.

I watched your video, I dont think i need to throw away my elbows as much as the rider is in the video, i think that makes it harder to follow the mouth and not easier. Ill work on following him at walk more though.
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It's really almost impossible to make any kind of accurate assessment from those videos.

I "think" I might b seeing a tall rider on a smallish horse, whose way of moving is a bit like a pronking gazelle , and the rider is leaning forward too much, though it's perfectly understandable, considering the movement.
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Ok. To me half halt is bringing the horse back with my seat and light squeeze with my fingers up to the point that the horse could have easily stopped, but didn't. Everyone has their own. But basically if the horse does not bring himself back from the half halts, I would do more halts.

About the elbows - you add the amount you're comfortable with. Here is a good video of Jane Savoie for the walk

I did not link the previous video for the turn on the haunches, just for the elbow movement, but should have actually linked the Jane Savoie video straight for the information in it.

My Arab mare was struggling with the slow work at first as well because it is just much more effort-free to just speed forward. :)
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Hes 14hh and im 5'2" I dont think Im too tall at all for him, and he takes up my leg really well owing to having the worlds largest barrel on a 14hh pony. let me see if i have a good picture. Im going to try and get a video this week of us. hopefully beter quality.

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You look great. I wouldn't have guessed he is only 14hh.

And yes, Arabs have lovely wide barrels. :)
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I can't critique because as you've noticed the saddle does not fit and I believe everything will be different, including his movement if you can get a saddle that fits. He can't move right and you can't balance right when the saddle is over his shoulder, and the girth interfering with his elbow is hindering his movement too.

Once you have a saddle that is wide enough to sit over his barrel and has forward billets so you can girth him up and allow him free shoulder and leg movement, you can work more on your balance too. Many horses will be more rushing if the saddle is over the shoulder (some horses buck too), so all of that may be better once you get a good saddle.
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gottatrot- it might be awhile. Im a college kid and i cant afford a new one probably til summer. til then we're bareback
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well, one can hardly make any kind of accurate assessment from those videos. I look forward to your posting clearer ones. He sure is a cutester!
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