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post #11 of 20 Old 04-29-2015, 10:34 PM
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I watch the videos to learn something myself so even if not a lot of people respond it doesn't mean we don't appreciate you posting them.
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post #12 of 20 Old 04-29-2015, 11:09 PM
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For you specifically, OP, this is the first time I've stumbled upon the thread so have not been ignoring you as such.

I tend to avoid rider critiques because I prefer to know an individual first so I know how to phrase my remarks - I want to give an honest critique to the best of my ability but I want to do it in a way that best sets up a person to make use of the comments rather than feeling emotionally battered or analytically confused.
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post #13 of 20 Old 04-29-2015, 11:34 PM
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You probably won't like what I have to say because I'm going to be harsh.
First, everything NBEventer said is 150% spot on. I'm going to add to it.

To reiterate what NBEventer said, you should not be jumping the height you are. Luckily your horse is very honest and is jumping these heights that you as the rider are not prepared to do yet. It looks from your jumping videos that you do not consider distances at all...just pointing the horse to the jump and getting lucky that your horse is jumping it. That is why you are often throwing yourself over the jump or getting left behind. No matter what you are doing, hunters or jumpers, you need to understand how to see distances and adjust your horse's stride. I have seen riders that fail to do this and the horse stumbles through the jump and either trips and falls or does a rotational fall. Not pretty, incredibly dangerous for both the horse and rider. It seems you see jumping position as throwing yourself in a forward position over a fence. That's not what it is at all...you are supposed to be following the horse with your body and really not put yourself in any position. Let the horse do that for you.

I think to really get a feel for what we're talking about you absolutely need to go back to trot poles and cross rails. Not a bad thing...even the pros do this because it brings you back to your foundation. I think enlisting a trainer that is very experienced in jumping is also essential. I noticed in the videos that there is someone (the one videoing) yelling corrections, but what she is saying is not what is really needed (generally for you to add leg, which isn't wrong, but it isn't what the big problem is). You need a good coach who is experienced in jumping if you want to keep both you and your horse safe.
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post #14 of 20 Old 04-30-2015, 01:02 AM
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Not talking about your videos particularly, but I find it difficult to watch -- much less judge -- most amateur horse videos. Again, not talking about yours because I haven't watched them.

Most are shot on a tripod. The horse is just a dot in the distance, or he's out of frame, or there is unbearable wind noise, or the camera is facing towards the light and you can't see anything . . .

People are used to tightly edited and perfectly shot TV and movies, and it makes home shot videos difficult to study.

And, one more reason I would hesitate to comment: A thorough critique is very time consuming; and unless it is from someone studying the same method of horsemanship, it would probably not be helpful to you.

One more thing: I run a horse website where I frequently post videos. Though many people follow my blog, they rarely watch my videos or comment on them. People like to see cute pictures which they can scroll past quickly. Most don't care to study videos.
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post #15 of 20 Old 04-30-2015, 11:23 PM
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I agree with what other have said about working out your base of support at a lower height. The good news is, you have very honest horse there. Things can only get better for both of you. Again like other have said, grids will do wonders. The preset distances help your horse develop safe form without having to worry about long spots and it teaches the rider how to wait for the horse to jump rather than throw the upper body forward before the horse has left the ground.
You can do a zillion things with grids and they are very fun to ride for both horse & rider.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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post #16 of 20 Old 05-03-2015, 01:08 PM
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I'm not a english rider but I'll do my best..
The number one thing that I saw was you sit very heavy. Try to lift in your seat a little and make sure you sit up straight! put you hand forward a hair more.. umm Bring your leg back a hair. The transition to the trot to canter was a little slow.. It should take 2 or 3 steps (at least for my guy)

I love his trot!!!!!

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post #17 of 20 Old 05-03-2015, 02:34 PM
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From what I saw:

- You're jumping beyond your ability. You are basically pre-jumping the jumps before the horse has a chance to leap. If your horse refuses, you will become a human lawn dart.
- Looks like you're leaning on the reins at times.
- You're leaning too far forward. Sit up straight!
- You're pumping way too much with your body in the jumping videos.
- If you're going to sit the canter, then SIT the canter. You're bouncing on your horse's back in the jumping video.
- helmet! helmet! HELMET!!! Every ride!
- tell whoever is holding the phone to turn the thing sideways

I think NBEventer gave great advice.

LOTS of two point work. Lots. If you are able to get off the horse easily, you didn't do enough.

* I'm often reading and posting from mobile and Siri loves to make a mockery of the English language.
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post #18 of 20 Old 05-04-2015, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DancingArabian View Post
If you are able to get off the horse easily, you didn't do enough.

That's a great way of putting it. If you can walk normally the next day, you didn't do enough. When that gets boring, you can do it without stirrups to make it a whole new game. You can have someone lunge you, then 2-point without the reins, holding your hands where they should be when approaching a jump. If your position is off, you will immediately fall on your face. Add trot-poles into the lunge circle: sit on the flat, then 2-point over the poles. that should help immensely with the chair-seat and the jumping ahead.
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post #19 of 20 Old 05-04-2015, 03:25 PM
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For two point:

Don't just go around in two point in circles. Start from a halt and be UP in two point. Then:

- get your horse to walk
- get your horse to walk straight
- get your horse to change direction
- halt, walk, halt sets
- practice your geometry at the walk
- transition from walk to trot (no posting)
- alternate between staying up in 2 point and posting
- transition from walk to trot to walk to halt (and other combinations)
- be able to change directions at the trot
- be able to circle at the trot
- work up to canter
- transition all the way up from halt to canter then back down again
- practice posting the canter (one stride is up, one stride is down)
- practice transitions (yes, I meant to repeat that)
- practice geometry

You should eventually be able to do all that and never sit in the saddle.

Work up to being able to stay in 2 point for 10 minutes, then 15, then 30.

* I'm often reading and posting from mobile and Siri loves to make a mockery of the English language.
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post #20 of 20 Old 05-04-2015, 06:18 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for your advice, I found most of it very helpful. I would like to add though that that was the first day I have ever jumped three feet in my life and we dont do it often and it was just to see how we would do . We normally jump around 2'3 -2'6. I tend to overcompensate with my body when height is added because I get nervous. I agree I need to desperatly work on my strides. I learned my strides and position over fences for hunter a few years ago but after that I had to take a long break from riding because of joining the Marines and going through all the training and unfortunately I should have touched on my basics and foundations more than I did. Ariat is honest because I have never let him get away with refusals and he has never had a bad experience. I am the only one besides my friend who has ever jumped this horse and she has only done so recently.

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