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post #21 of 25 Old 01-12-2016, 12:33 PM
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To improve your chair seat until you can change saddles, you might try letting your stirrups out a whole or two. This may help your leg hang, and therefore stay under you better.

I hope later my internet will let me watch the video, but I agree with Sky....walk more with LOOSE arms, continually asking for length. Also, work on a spiral, asking for yielding out, and then you can use your inside leg as a slow down command.

I have never trained a horse in an I understand!
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post #22 of 25 Old 01-12-2016, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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I agree that if we were in an enclosed arena she would probably slow down several notches, but that isn't available so I'll have to teach her using a combination of lateral work as you've all suggested.

At the moment we're actually working on a bad balking problem so we won't be schooling in those fields again until we get it sorted, but I was interested to see what people thought of our pre-balking schooling work, in case anything really stood out that could have been the cause of our current issues. Sky pointed out that she seems tense and hurried, and you've all confirmed the hurried aspect though perhaps not the tense. This points towards her always having wanted to rush through the work to get done faster, and she has now realised that if she just flat-out refuses to go out, perhaps she won't have to do anything. All combined with my not having time to do any consistent riding for the last two months, and you have an idle, barn sour horse.

I mention all this to explain that I unfortunately won't be putting all your useful suggestions into practice real soon, but I will do so once we are ready.

Yogiwick, I wish those huge fields were mine too! They are unused as the owners neither want to sell nor rent them, which is good for me as I can use them for riding. If they sold the local broccoli king would be in there like a flash, offering more then I could afford, and likewise if they rented, so it's best like this. I don't have a smaller area for schooling with decent footing; there is a small patch of land beside the yard where I do groundwork but it's very stony for riding.
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post #23 of 25 Old 01-12-2016, 03:37 PM
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First, I REALLY like your mare! She has impulsion and carries her weight very well, and even though bracing against the bit, she is travelling at the posting trot speed UPhill. These as training aspects that many people have to work hard to achieve, so you don't have to.
Regarding yourself, here is what I suggest:
1) MY PET PEEVE: TUCK YOUR SHIRT IN YOUR PANTS!!! You will be sitting on it, and you don't need that to deal with. Plus, it is just neater. (I'm surprised that your previous instructor let you get away with that, bc I wouldn't have.)
2) Either take your saddle to a babysitter horse, or put it on the fence, drop your legs straight down and readjust your stirrups to sit where the BOTTOM of the stirrup iron rests just below your ankle BONE. This is average setting for an English Stirrup. Pay attention to where your foot is just hanging. You should not be able to see any more than the tip of your boot, looking down over your knee. If you see more while riding, you are sitting in a chair seat.
3) If it helps give you more security, ride this horse with a Western saddle. The horse never cares which saddle you use, as long as it doesn't pinch or rub.
4) DRILL the whoa into this horse. If she doesn't listen the first time, pull her head to the side and deMAND it. She is really cruising along and every time you turn it looks jerky as if she doesn't care which direction she moves as long as she can continue to go fast.
5) You CAN train a young horse with a bit. Many here prefer a French Link Snaffle, which is mild.
6) When a green horse shakes his/her head, they are telling you "No, I DON'T want to do this!"
When a more seasoned horse shakes his/her head, they are telling you, "I don't understand how to do what you want."

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post #24 of 25 Old 01-12-2016, 04:32 PM
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If there a way you could ride with your son with your more experienced horse and ride parallel (side by side but with GOOD room inbetween) and have that experienced horse set a slower tempo that she could match?

I've noticed that when I did "follow the leader" with my friend and her son, that helped his slow horse speed up, yet my fast pacer slow down to roughly the same tempo... and THAT was great learning for both of them.

Sky used to freight around too, and he was MUCH more "runaway" than your mare is being.

Something to try. We did it at walk and trot but you could also try it at canter, just put a little more space inbetween you both, and call out directions so you don't crash.
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post #25 of 25 Old 01-12-2016, 08:16 PM
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It's not about speed, it's about impulsion.

You want the horse nice and relaxed, slow even. You build up impulsion and PUSH from the hind end.

"Speed" means a horse dragging itself forward quickly. It's about mindset. You PUSH forward, INTO the bridle.

Not "speed" forward THOUGH the bridle!

The starting point is the even "slow and steady" relaxed. Look up the dressage pyramid and use it.

You need tempo and theme. You don't actually want "slow and steady" but that may be a good mindset to be in for her at this point. just to get that relaxation and rhythm.
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