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post #1 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
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First time out

I wanted to let everyone know we went to our first dressage show yesterday. T1 scored a 63% and T2 scored a 60%. We won both classes.

There was a huge motorcycle that zoomed by us right as we were entering the test and horses were cantering by in the field, one horse was rearing in the warm up ring just outside, and a car backfired. No spooking.

Very proud of my girl. It is bittersweet that my trainer's training program makes all of your mistakes glaringly obvious. We could not hide issues like we were able to at the schooling shows riding another way. I was very happy with her. Judge gave us a ton of comments and next time we know what to work on.

At the end of both sheets she wrote "very capable horse." maybe ty has a chance at this after all <3
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post #2 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 09:20 AM
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Congratulations!

I donít understand your comment about your trainerís program.....and being able to hide issues. I donít see how your trainers program has anything to do with it. Could you explain further?

I assume Tyra is feeling way better if you are out there showing....yay!!

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post #3 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
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Congratulations!

I donít understand your comment about your trainerís program.....and being able to hide issues. I donít see how your trainers program has anything to do with it. Could you explain further?

I assume Tyra is feeling way better if you are out there showing....yay!!
It's interesting you ask this because I thought a lot about it today. I told my grand prix trainer how we did and I think she was a little disappointed in us, mostly because she knows the "secrets" to getting the good scores and we did none of them.

I am starting to understand my trainer's philosophy and point.
1) She lowered the bit substantially in Tyra's mouth. That did 2 things: a) she had a choice: take the contact or don't and b) if she was going to take the contact it meant my hands were completely still. If she didn't take the contact it is because my connection was not giving her confidence and she would be hit in the mouth.

So it was a test to see how my hands were. Lo and behold she didn't want to take the contact. The way I used to ride, the bit was higher in her mouth so it was not as mobile. Therefore my lack of feel in my hands was not as obvious because there wasn't as much movement in the bit, so she could take a stronger contact.

2) The noseband was also very loose. This goes back to point 1.

3) Because my trainer is discouraging me from using my hands (and seat) for that matter as breaks, coming out of the canter circles left us out of control. Because the bit was low and because she was not truly "on it" and therefore not on the aids, it was quite a ride back to the center line.

I think this was to get me to see that a) I have an INCREDIBLE horse to be achieving 60% because b) I basically suck.

I'm not upset about this. Although she basically sent me into the ring with a red nose and clown shoes, who really won yesterday was Tyra. If I can sharpen myself up and control my body better, we can EASILY get higher scores and maybe in the 70s.
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post #4 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 09:33 AM
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I'm happy things went well for you.



Here is some advice I read about showing. Smile! If you frown when you know you and your horse did something badly judges are more likely to notice than if you smile as if you were pleased with your performance.

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@TXhorseman - there were smiles all around, don't worry! Considering I felt both of our rides were 50s, mainly because my riding was so bad, I was shocked that we got into the 60s saved by my mount's talent and love of performing!
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post #6 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 03:01 PM
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Aww, so glad to hear things went well. :)

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post #7 of 45 Old 10-29-2018, 03:56 PM
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Nice job at the show! Glad to hear she didnít spook in the ring!
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post #8 of 45 Old 10-30-2018, 11:40 AM
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3) Because my trainer is discouraging me from using my hands (and seat) for that matter as breaks, coming out of the canter circles left us out of control. Because the bit was low and because she was not truly "on it" and therefore not on the aids, it was quite a ride back to the center line.
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So what do you use as Ďbrakesí ? Take away seat and hands and I am wondering?


Obviously the mare is feeling a lot better before you are out showing.

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post #9 of 45 Old 10-30-2018, 12:22 PM
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Your trainer seems to be offering you some very odd advice
You really do need to have effective brakes in any horses but particularly when you're working in a tight area like a dressage arena where you're making transitions and turns you need a responsive horse at all times.
It isn't just about the marks its about your horse's welfare as getting it wrong can easily cause leg and muscle injuries


I assume you're having the horse's serum CK levels closely monitored if you're competing again?
I was wondering if you supplement Vit D since your horse spends so much time in a stable its deprived of its natural source from sunlight? Vit D deficiency can cause muscle wastage if its prolonged.

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post #10 of 45 Old 10-30-2018, 12:36 PM
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60% is a respectable score.

Was your trainer trying to mean to stop riding with the hand break on? If you dont use your hand to slow, you need your seat at least. And if she follow French classical principals, there is a clear distinction between the hand and leg aids, with the hand being used for up and back motions, including stopping and slowing.

I'd also caution you about dropping the bit just because. Not all horses can handle a loose, low bit. Especially tb mares. A high but doesn't mean forced contact, it's not the same as a tight noseband.
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