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post #1 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 03:25 AM Thread Starter
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Horse dealers

Does anyone recognise a horse dealer called ***** ******? He is selling a very talented young horse for a low price so it sounds like a scam… Is he still trustworthy? Any information is useful!

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The dealer's name has been edited out, and the thread has been left rather as a common thread about horses, dealers, reliability and scamming.

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post #2 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 11:15 AM
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I do not recognize the name, but I have to caution that if something sounds too good to be true then it usually is. I say usually because there are those rare finds.

For instance, recently I was looking for a horse that my 8 year old beginner could ride. I found a 13 year old Hackney/Arab cross. The person sent me beautiful videos. It was a seriously beautiful, talented, horse that a beginner could ride. I was prepared to pay if after seeing the horse and having it looked over everything checked out. Then they told me the price was $500 for me and that they were having a friend handle the transaction because they had left the country. Also a million reasons why a PPE could not be done. No thanks.

Another we go to look at and they say the tack room is locked with the bridle so we can't ride but then offer us a great deal on the horse. Again, no thanks.
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post #3 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 11:30 AM
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Where is the ad? How do you know he is a dealer? What type of horse? Age? Reasons you think it is so talented? Price?



As you are interested, have you contacted him to ask for more info?
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post #4 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 11:49 AM
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If it sounds too good to be true...

There are a few people out there scamming, and they can change their names easily. I would never buy from a dealer again unless I could establish that they are well-known and have a very good reputation. None of the ones I know of in my area fit that description so it's a nope from me.
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post #5 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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I have contacted the dealer and I've seen videos of the horse. Of course I also googled his competition history and therefore found more videos of him. So yeah, the horse is talented.

I'm not exactly sure if he's a dealer but he also had this other horse which ad I saw and contacted the dealer. However that horse was sold, apparently, and he offered me this other one. He keeps sending pictures of the horse and telling how his daughter died from cancer. He also asked me different questions about the home I could offer the horse. Without answering my questions of course.

Should I just drop it?
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post #6 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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I forgot to answer some of your guys questions. The horse is a seven-year-old gelding, showjumper, price ~15k euros.
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post #7 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 01:38 PM
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If the horse has a show record you have proof of what the animal is or isn't.

Family circumstances can also have much to do with pricing a horse for sale...
Type of home the animal would go to also can have a large impact on price...
Not only are you trying to find "dirt" on the person it appears they have also looked to find "dirt" on you.
"Dirt" is good or bad depending upon the side of fence you are on...

You need to see, meet in person the animal, ride and handle the animal then make some decisions.
The agent, which this person may be representing sellers you don't need to like...he is doing a job and that is to represent a animal in the best possible way for sale.
After you meet and ride the animal successfully then if you are still interested you get a independent medical evaluation done called a thorough PPE...

You don't actually need to like the sellers agent, you need to work with him in negotiating a potential sale if this is the horse for you.
The horses show record though speaks more than what the agent is or reputation...

I've seen where a horse obviously was a difficult animal to handle met a rider he clicked with and the agent seeing this knew, just knew it could be, was a great match.
That agent made that deal happen...
Not every agent is a bad-egg.
Agents are trying to get the best price, represent pluses of their clients horses and minimize faults and loss control of $$...
How you see or interpret the rest of that....
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post #8 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 01:41 PM
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As others have said if it is too good to be true then most likely it is. This is an international forum with members from all over the world. Knowing the breed of horse, age or horse's name if it has a show history or what part of the world you are searching in to have found ads this person has posted to sell could garner more information than just general answers. I can say there are several ***** ******'s in my neck of the woods. One that I know that has/had horses. I wouldn't share my opinion publicly without any more information than you have posted.

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post #9 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 01:43 PM
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IDK, I've only bought horses once, but I don't like the "bait and switch" that this guy seems to be giving you. If it were me, I'd walk away. Especially with the suspiciously low price. Plenty of other good horses out there. I don't want to buy something from someone who I think is trying to "play" me.
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post #10 of 26 Old 11-12-2019, 01:45 PM
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I have contacted the dealer and I've seen videos of the horse. Of course I also googled his competition history and therefore found more videos of him. So yeah, the horse is talented.

I'm not exactly sure if he's a dealer but he also had this other horse which ad I saw and contacted the dealer. However that horse was sold, apparently, and he offered me this other one. He keeps sending pictures of the horse and telling how his daughter died from cancer. He also asked me different questions about the home I could offer the horse. Without answering my questions of course.

Should I just drop it?
Are you buying the horse off of a video only? If so, I’d run away.

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