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post #1 of 8 Old 07-13-2019, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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Hunters and Jumpers

So recently I have been seeing a lot about how it’s “unfair” to put a horse who’s better suited in jumpers in hunter classes and vice versa.

I think jumpers is super cool. A really neat thing, but personally I don’t want to do it. I like the look of Hunters better and because of some random fear brought on by the appy lesson pony I hate making tricky turns while cantering, it stresses me out. So obviously my trainer and I have been planning on doing hunters. However the courses we’ve started schooling recently are a lot more complex then the hunter courses I’m used to. It’s not a bad thing because he is a super awesome horse and he takes care of me, but it did get me thinking on how he is a lot more of a typical jumper horse then a hunter horse. I was watching back a video and I sent it to my friend for a second opinion and she agreed he looks more suited for jumpers.

I was wondering what your opinion of this whole debate is? If a horse is more suited towards jumpers is it not right to keep them in hunters? And vice versa.
Here’s the video that we thought made him took like a jumper.

https://youtu.be/hBMjVMtwzsE
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-13-2019, 09:36 PM
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I don't see anything in that video that says this horse can't do hunters. I see a horse who's not being ridden in a way that will help him.


There's a reason the majority of jumpers first graduate out of the hunter ring. Hunters teach control, rhythm, pace, and develop the eye. All those are needed in jumpers. Even when doing jumper courses, you school them like hunters.



The reason low level jumper classes are terrifying to watch is people who can't do the hunters thing it's better to skip right to the jumper ring and race around while their horse saves their butt.
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post #3 of 8 Old 07-14-2019, 08:55 AM
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What @ApuetsoT said.

My daughter does hunters, and that is the main focus of her lesson barn. While it's true that some horses will never be fast enough for jumpers, they can ALL benefit from starting with hunters, as can the riders. We see so many riders just go straight to jumpers because they find hunters too hard. My daughter's coach insists that riders need to start there before they can go to jumpers. You can't just fly around the course leaping over jumps without first understanding the importance of pace, counting strides, and proper form over jumps and on the flat. If you do, you're going to end up crashing through jumps or flying over your horse's head. Too many riders take this shortcut and pay the price later - or their horses do.

Hunters is a good foundation for jumpers and there's no reason why this horse can't do it. It's a lot of work, yes. It should be.

Nothing in that video says jumper to me. Not that you and the horse can't do jumpers eventually, but I don't know what mean when you say he looks like a jumper.
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Chase is a hunter, not a jumper at this point in his training and you are not a jumper rider in experience or ability either but learning, just learning to control and rate...
Your form over fences is improving but has a ways to go so you would be a equal partner on getting that horse around a "timed course".
Chase is doing point and shoot work...where you point he goes over, but you are not looking by your own words at making tight turns, jumping at shortened lines and moving out in speed...so don't make the horse what he is not and you as his rider are not comfortable with.
Your horse currently is jumping with a cadenced speed and look... like a hunter not a jumper.

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post #5 of 8 Old 07-14-2019, 03:22 PM
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Successful jumper riders can see a distance and nail it; to not be able to do that is dangerous in a tight, tricky course or a jump-off. Until you can see your distances, you're better off riding hunters while you learn to rate and balance, find your distances, and be comfortable with turns. A hunter course is a lot less likely to get you hurt if you make a mistake. Your horse is fine for hunters if you keep working so you are actually riding, and not just letting him carry you around. Hunter riders can easily transition to jumpers. Jumper riders who do not start out doing hunters rarely make good jumper riders.
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post #6 of 8 Old 07-14-2019, 10:30 PM
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I keep hearing your trainer yell, wait, wait, wait wait, but I don't see the horses stride change till he does it a few times then gets tired and chips a bit to one.

I think the horse would be fine in either discipline but both you and the horse need more training. Either your horse so you can just be a passenger, you so you can ride him better, or in a more hunter fashion, or both so you can meet in the middle.
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post #7 of 8 Old 07-15-2019, 01:58 PM
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Going over a jump is going over a jump. Your horse needs to be capable of clearing the height in a safe and effective manner and you need to be able to be able to ride in a manner and ability that benefits you both. Accuracy and form whether hunter or jumper is paramount. That means as others have said knowing how to find your distance, rate and balance as well as negotiate turns and approaches that may not be straight into the jump. That should all come before adding speed. Both hunter and jumper courses come with varying levels of difficulty in layout.
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post #8 of 8 Old 07-22-2019, 10:53 PM
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Lots of good points above, also just wanted to say- it's not ''unfair'' to do hunters rather than jumpers even if your horse is more suited to jumpers. People care about stuff like that. Horses have no idea, don't care, and you're not doing them any type of hardship. Do what makes you happy.
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