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post #1 of 16 Old 11-01-2018, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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Oops Gets 'Started' For Realsy Tomorrow.

Our first born foal, Oops, will be three in February. She's always had her feet handled, learned early to be haltered up. Learned QUICKLY that the trailer is for good things so now we can't keep her OUT of it when we pull it out into the pasture to load other horses (Which can be something of a PITA, but we just haul her along now since she doesn't like to get out once she's in), and she also learned early that a saddle pad won't eat her, and a flank strap won't kill her.

She was taught to do flexions about a year ago, but we've not really been consistent with her schooling as far as the finer details go. She's been ridden a handful of times and did well, though the last time she was 'over it' rather quickly and tried to crow hop a little. I wasn't there, and I don't know the young man who rode her so it could have been an oil and water situation. Oops is clever, people friendly, and needs to be 'taught', not 'broke' and I suspect that young man was more to the old school way of thinking: That you break a horse.

Tomorrow afternoon, her starting begins. J, who has worked very well with her in the past, but who has never truly started a horse for anyone, is going to start her real education. J has gone to numerous clinics on starting a colt (I know that doesn't make her good but y'know... it's something better than saying you watched it on youtube or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night), and Oops did quite well learning from her... until months later, J went to an Anderson clinic about older horses with bad habits. THOSE lessons went over like a lead balloon with Oops, and J learned that horses can't be taught with a recipe.

My daughter was very resistant at first, to the point of being toxic about it - but she's come around to my way of thinking: Teach her, don't cowboy her out.

She had me text J last night. I'm off work tomorrow, J gets off work at 3:30, Daughter is off work at 2. Grandbaby will be hanging out with us in her playpen nearby (but safely separated from Oops by the fence/pen and distance.

She's also going to help us get Outback cleaned up - Outback has rain rot something terrible, and the vet who saw Supes this week sent home an iodine (Or is it betadine?) shampoo. Instructed us to scrape off all the crusty stuff, curry her good to get it all out of her coat, then swab her down. She's going to look ugly for a while, but it's better than the alternative.

Wish us luck.

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post #2 of 16 Old 11-01-2018, 06:19 PM
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That's so exciting!! From what I've heard of Oops, I'm sure she's gonna be great under saddle!

Too bad about Outback, hope she'll be all better again soon :)

Good luck with of em :)
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That is super exciting. Oops (such a cute name, by the way!) will probably do just fine under saddle. :) Good luck, please let us know how it goes. Super exciting.

As for Outback, ugh, rain rot sucks. Poor thing! Betadine is the brand name, same thing lol. The shampoo should help though. She will look better in no time.
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post #4 of 16 Old 11-14-2018, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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She has done well. J has been riding her three days in a row, two days off. The bottom fell out of our weather Saturday morning, but Friday evening we actually saddled her up, and hauled her off to ride on her first REAL ride.

Two hours of brush popping and riding muddy, crappy, cold cattle trails... and she only balked once at a wide, kinda deep creek with a bit of quick sand on the far side. The descent was rough - lots of holes from water washouts, lots of loose sand and slick clay, some gnarled tree roots with holes under THOSE so very uncertain footing and even Gina and Trigger had a moment - short ones - before we bailed right on off in there. The climb out on the other side of the creek was equally steep, with one narrow track to go up. Oops gave a hard pass on that. It was a negative ghost rider.

J rode her 20 yards up the creek, found another crossing, and that's where they made it through.

She also found some large clumps of blue-green sagey colored moss growing on the ground worrisome. She didn't blow or snort or bow up, just slowed up, tip toed around a clump or two before sniffing... then she was fine.

Our only trouble is finding a saddle in my stash that fits her right but also fits a grown adult's behind. Most o four saddles are too wide right now - she's not broadened out yet. Double padding helps, but there's still some saddle roll. My barrel saddle fits her best, but then when we all ride and I'm on Trigger, I have to have it... though next time I may see if I can get that SRS barrel saddle to work for him instead.

Anyway. Pics below from Friday evening. We were out well past dark. She loaded like she's done it every day of her life, and she loaded in the dark without any coaxing or balking - soon as her front legs bumped the trailer lip, she hopped right in.

The one bit of REAL drama we had - I had her tied to saddle up, I started easing the cinch tight... she didn't wanna.... and she set back hard, slung the saddle off... nearly fell down. Twice.

After that, she realized her shenanigans weren't going to save her from going to work/class and could possibly get her hurt - I was prepared to let her get her bell rung all on her own. She figured it out pretty quick though. She was postcard perfect after that.

J's assessment: She's fun!

She said it's a bit like riding a stubborn old horse, but she knows Oops is just sometimes confused about what J is asking her to do. It's not defiance, it's just. whoa... you want me to do what now? Seriously? Well? Okay then.

She also said her gaits (She went through every gait when asked, stopped when asked) are very smooth.

She also said my husband, who's been keen on trying to sell Oops, is nuts if he insists on selling her. She's going to be a good little horse under saddle.

First three are from the evening when we started working Outback over for the rainrot. J just rode her in the pen, just to see how receptive she was. She did well, no drama, no issues. Ended on a high note, lots of snacks, a good brush down, feed, and loving.

(In the second picture, she's not parked out because J is too heavy for her - she was about to pee just as I snapped the picture. In the third one, that's why the big arms TADAH! She was about to go poop... just as I snapped the picture. LOL)

The rest are from Friday evening (Yes, her full name is in the one picture, she is okay with me posting this. EDIT: Never mind. Just figured out my office computer still has Paint. LOL)
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YAY!!! I've been dying to hear how everything went. Glad it is going well. She is so darn cute.

Ah, I bet she was like 'darn! I guess I'll work...I can't get out of it...so...fine' After that little catastrophe. They do try to get out of it don't they!

So happy to hear that she's doing well. She seems like a sweetheart who wants to please. Yeah, that's exactly right - she's not being defiant, she just doesn't know everything yet. She seems like a quick learner though, which is awesome.

OMG LOL about the pictures! Perfect timing right! That's hilarious lol.

Great update, keep us posted on more!!

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Yeah, she looked rather humbled after those two little tantrums, back-to-back. We just moved out of the way, let her have her 'moment' both times and after that, she was done.


LOL Loaded in the trailer though... she kept pawing... let's go, let's go, let's GOOOOO people!



I loaded Trigger, we shut the gates, and she tried to kick him! WHIFF! Missed! There was a little tussle, then everyone settled right down. But. Then she'd try to nip him, but she didn't have enough rope... but he did. She just had to look at him sideways, turn her head his direction, and he'd 'flappy lip' her on the neck or jaw in warning. I don't think he ever actually bit her, but he sure kept her lined out. It's been great seeing him finally starting to take up for himself.
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Just another update. I've had the crud, it sucks. But Sunday was a lovely, if windy and brisk day. My friend from Texas called, said, hey. My boy needs a training day, just to get him off the place, low pressure, but barrels. She was bringing her daughter and her daughter's ancient mare as well. Our local arena has weekend jackpots, so she was on her way to me. I live literally 2 miles from the arena. We can see it from our house.

I got around, rustled up J, we loaded Oops and I chose Sarge this time... and we met them at the arena.

Porta Potties were the lesson of the day for my two. Sarge and Oops each thought they were going to be eaten by the potty. Pictures posted with permission.

It was a good day though - Big Sarge is insecure, easily and immediately buddy sours if I don't watch it. This was only the third time I'd ridden him since we got him almost two years ago. Usually one of the kids rides him. All in all, I enjoyed his company. He's a big goon, a lovely boy when it comes to socializing with humans, but so incredibly insecure. It's weird.

Anyway, I think his desire to buck at times really was right down to the saddle and pad. I have an SRS barrel saddle that was shockingly huge on Trigger, so I wasn't going to keep it - but I threw it on Sarge and it's a perfect fit. I'm using a Classic Equine ESP pad on him now. He never seemed bothered by it, unlike other saddles in the past. However - He disliked, greatly, that I put a curb chain on his bit. Took him a little getting used to it - I had it the right tightness, but he kept shaking his head like, Really!? AUGH! I hate these things! He finally got over himself. We got along just fine, except for a few instances of him not wanting to listen. I wore my spurs (stationary ball/bumper type spurs) though and just a touch of those for communication and it got his attention and he behaved just fine. He doesn't move just off the slightest change in my seat or leg, he's not a big fan of neck reining - so very different from Mr. Trigger, and I had to remind myself of that. He moves nicely off that tiny bit of spur pressing into him though, so here we go - I've got to learn what he knows and what he doesn't so we can communicate properly. I'm going to make Sarge my next project now that Trigger is honestly about as 'good as he's gonna get'. His teeth are probably needing floated, so I'll get him out to Dr. Hannah (The vet who fixed Supes' botched floating job) next week.

Oops did great. She still doesn't offer to buck or act a fool, just gets confused by new things, but she's quickly becoming a good ride. J just loves her.

Since the porta potty was a source of concern and sometimes distress - we parked right by it and just worked them through the OMG ITS GANNAE EAT ME reaction. By the end of the afternoon, they were far more calm about it. It didn't bother them that people went in (Got eaten), it bothered them when people CAME OUT... mostly because there was a lot of effort to get the catch undone, so the whole thing would heave and rock a little, the door would flap, the wind would catch it and it would bang open and then LIKE MAGIC A WILD HUMAN APPEARED!

So yep. Our afternoon was spent hanging out by the toilet.

Sally is not pictured, nor the topic of this, but she is above my pay grade. Daughter has sent her off for 30 days with some folks that know what they're doing. She left Sunday, same day as these pictures. I have hope for her, now that she's 'over' Outback. They're still very tight/close, but she's not running interference for her anymore, she's not acting a fool around her when we walk out there. She loaded with no fuss, no stress, unlike the time she knocked me out of the trailer at the vet clinic this summer.
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Love the humour in your post. It's funny sometimes how the most simple things is what freaks them out.
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Love the humour in your post. It's funny sometimes how the most simple things is what freaks them out.
Thank you. Though I will say once upon a time I didn't laugh quite so much, nor look on our horse's holes with humor.

I was of the Bad Horse/Needs Fixing/Must Be In Charge Brigade.... and it caused a lot of friction and stress... and it required time, experience (NOT TO SAY I'M AN EXPERIENCED HORSEMAN - I am so noooottt), and a change of riding partners to get here. ;)

The group I ride with now are very laid back about everything, even when the horses are being absurdly naughty. They try to look through the lens of the horse's POV, not the human's and they laugh and joke a lot while working their horse through any issues. They handle the issues firmly, immediately, but with good humor and patience - and it has rubbed off on me and mine, all for the better.

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I was going to wish you good luck, but it seems things are going pretty well!


Still, good luck!

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